2018 Predictions

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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Timoid. wrote:
    All these people who say QS will win two monuments.

    With whom?

    Gaviria got to be one to watch for MSR.

    GIlbert for the cobbbles.

    I have more faith in a Gaviria victory.

    In the cobbled races, QS have always been so strong because they had both the top guy AND decent second row riders.

    Boonen could either win his way, or if he got shut out, QS could send someone else down the road while they all worried about Boonen.

    I don't really feel they have that anymore. Instead, there will be a lot of QS riders there at 80km to go. A lot of QS riders in group 2 and the odd representative in group 1 at 30-40km to go, and they'll come third or fourth in the final sprint.

    Gaviria is down to ride ‘all’ the Classics next year inc Roubaix and Flanders. If he can be kept in touch with the leaders...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Joelsim wrote:

    Gaviria is down to ride ‘all’ the Classics next year inc Roubaix and Flanders. If he can be kept in touch with the leaders...

    So on Gavaria.

    There's a lot of chat how, particularly Flanders, you need to put in the hard yards learning the style and route into all the various climbs.

    The same (though less) is applicable for Roubaix.

    Whaddya think are his chances on the cobbles? He has the body for it, but does he have enough experience yet?
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Joelsim wrote:

    Gaviria is down to ride ‘all’ the Classics next year inc Roubaix and Flanders. If he can be kept in touch with the leaders...

    So on Gavaria.

    There's a lot of chat how, particularly Flanders, you need to put in the hard yards learning the style and route into all the various climbs.

    The same (though less) is applicable for Roubaix.

    Whaddya think are his chances on the cobbles? He has the body for it, but does he have enough experience yet?

    No, not yet. He could win a few of the smaller cobbles races but I’ll be surprised to see him do anything in RVV or PR this year. In a couple of years, yes.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,597
    I think quick step will have a good year. They've wasted the last couple of years riding for a lame horse.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    How come the lighter riders are doing so well in Paris-Roubaix nowdays? Wasn't it said you needed to have a certain amount of weight and power to withstand the cobbles and in order to not skip all over the place?
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,907
    bardet tour
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    bardet tour

    Clearly that isn’t ever going to happen.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    M.R.M. wrote:
    How come the lighter riders are doing so well in Paris-Roubaix nowdays? Wasn't it said you needed to have a certain amount of weight and power to withstand the cobbles and in order to not skip all over the place?

    Who do you have in mind?
  • M.R.M. wrote:
    How come the lighter riders are doing so well in Paris-Roubaix nowdays? Wasn't it said you needed to have a certain amount of weight and power to withstand the cobbles and in order to not skip all over the place?

    Who do you have in mind?

    Seconded... Stybar, Rowe, GVA, Moscon, Eddy Bos, Stannard, Hayman all pretty classic-sized riders, no?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,907
    Joelsim wrote:
    bardet tour

    Clearly that isn’t ever going to happen.


    yeah but if it does i get uber bragging rights and if it doesn't no one will remember i said it.

    on the other hand, that guy is on an upward trajectory
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Timoid. wrote:
    All these people who say QS will win two monuments.

    With whom?

    Gaviria got to be one to watch for MSR.

    GIlbert for the cobbbles.

    I have more faith in a Gaviria victory.

    In the cobbled races, QS have always been so strong because they had both the top guy AND decent second row riders.

    Boonen could either win his way, or if he got shut out, QS could send someone else down the road while they all worried about Boonen.

    I don't really feel they have that anymore. Instead, there will be a lot of QS riders there at 80km to go. A lot of QS riders in group 2 and the odd representative in group 1 at 30-40km to go, and they'll come third or fourth in the final sprint.

    Don't think Gilbert can win MSR, unless all the fast guys fall off. Gaviria definitely can, and needs to stay with the riders that jump in the last k of the last climb.... Gilbert for Flanders again maybe?
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    M.R.M. wrote:
    How come the lighter riders are doing so well in Paris-Roubaix nowdays? Wasn't it said you needed to have a certain amount of weight and power to withstand the cobbles and in order to not skip all over the place?

    Who do you have in mind?
    True. It's probably only Greg Van Avermaet at 72 kg.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    Joelsim wrote:
    bardet tour

    Clearly that isn’t ever going to happen.


    yeah but if it does i get uber bragging rights and if it doesn't no one will remember i said it.

    on the other hand, that guy is on an upward trajectory
    He has no TT ability.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    All these people who say QS will win two monuments.

    With whom?

    Gilbert wants to win all 5. That would certainly quash the doubters!