Pirelli P Zero Velo 4S – as good as they sound?

onyourright
onyourright Posts: 509
edited April 2018 in Road general
These tyres are claimed to combine a supple casing with only moderate puncture protection and a tread compound designed for wet grip, i.e. more or less a Continental Grand Prix 4-Season without that tyre’s heavy (and therefore power-sapping) puncture protection.

Anyone already riding these? If so, does the wet grip live up to expectations?

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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,375
    some info here...

    https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... lo-4s-2017
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • bennydunks
    bennydunks Posts: 25
    +1 for Pirelli tyres from me!
  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    Got the regular non 4s ones.

    They roll as well as the benchmark 4000s, and are more resilient. They also inspire more confidence in the twisty stuff. Better at feedback as well, to be honest.

    Like a 4000s they offer little resistance to flint punctures.
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    bennydunks wrote:
    +1 for Pirelli tyres from me!

    How long/ many miles have you been using them? What are you comparing them with?
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    bennydunks wrote:
    +1 for Pirelli tyres from me!

    Made by Hutchinson, apparently. Nothing wrong with Hutchinson, but it just sounds like Pirelli's involvement is relatively minor and more in keeping with a branding exercise. Happy to be corrected though...
  • onyourright
    onyourright Posts: 509
    Pirelli did the hard bit: the rubber compound.

    Hutchinson makes good tyres. But there’s not much room for innovation in bias-ply casings at a given cost (TPI). It’s the compounding where the magic happens, and that’s how the two wolves – Wolf Vorm Walde and Wolfgang Arenz – changed Continental from an also-ran to the leader in road-bike tyres.

    Still curious to know if the P Zero Velo 4S is genuinely grippy in the wet. Not many tyres are, especially now that silica is replacing carbon black to reduce rolling resistance (low rolling resistance and good wet traction are mutually exclusive without clever tricks, one requiring low hysteresis and the other high).
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    delete
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    http://road.cc/content/review/233541-pi ... lo-4s-tyre
  • ryan_w-2
    ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,162
    Love mine so far but only put 300km on them.
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  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Onyourright, if you are looking for grippy in the wet, i'd say Vredestein Fortezza Senso All Weather are good. They are light and durable, but i found them below average for rolling resistance.
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    Edit: wrong tyres.
  • chippyk
    chippyk Posts: 529
    Bungle73 wrote:
    Edit: wrong tyres.

    Bungle!! Did you get the tyres from Merlin?
  • bungle73
    bungle73 Posts: 758
    ChippyK wrote:
    Bungle73 wrote:
    Edit: wrong tyres.

    Bungle!! Did you get the tyres from Merlin?

    I did as a mater of fact, because I wanted 28s and the usual retailers only seem to be selling the 23s and 25s, and they were the cheapest too.
  • robertsims
    robertsims Posts: 141
    Bungle73 wrote:
    ChippyK wrote:
    Bungle73 wrote:
    Edit: wrong tyres.

    Bungle!! Did you get the tyres from Merlin?

    I did as a mater of fact, because I wanted 28s and the usual retailers only seem to be selling the 23s and 25s, and they were the cheapest too.



    They are a really excellent retailer, wouldnt you agree?
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    RobertSims wrote:
    Bungle73 wrote:
    ChippyK wrote:
    Bungle73 wrote:
    Edit: wrong tyres.

    Bungle!! Did you get the tyres from Merlin?

    I did as a mater of fact, because I wanted 28s and the usual retailers only seem to be selling the 23s and 25s, and they were the cheapest too.



    They are a really excellent retailer, wouldnt you agree?

    I'm a bit wary. Someone was slagging them off something awful recently...

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