cracking sound from the crank

ryan753
ryan753 Posts: 11
edited October 2017 in Road general
I have a roadbike and recently there are some like clicking and cracking sounds coming from the crank arm/crank set every time i ride on it(every cycle). It happens when its on the high gear or accelerating. Anyone know how to solve this?

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  • bottom bracket needs:
    greasing
    tightening
    replacing

    or,
    Crank arms could be loose
    Frame could be cracked
    Pedals could be loose
    Could be a loose chain ring bolt

    Has it been in the rain?
  • ryan753
    ryan753 Posts: 11
    bottom bracket needs:
    greasing
    tightening
    replacing

    or,
    Crank arms could be loose
    Frame could be cracked
    Pedals could be loose
    Could be a loose chain ring bolt

    Has it been in the rain?

    Yes it has been in the rain.
    I have checked the crank arms and pedals so there shouldnt be any problem with these two
  • what is the bike/drivetrain?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    For me, cracking is the classic knackered BB bearing sound.
    Ben

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  • haydenm
    haydenm Posts: 2,997
    Is it BB30?
  • thefd
    thefd Posts: 1,021
    I have this also on my new CAADX. It is BB30 - was thinking of having a look at the BB because I have removed, checked and put the pedal back on (which is new) and the noise is still there.
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  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    Two bikes, both HTII, various LH cranks. Both nearly always have a crack/creak sound from the power stroke of the LH crank, particularly when out of the saddle. With a new BB, removed and reinstalled LH crank, it will stop for a bit and then come back. I've come to the conclusion that HTII creaks.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Alex99 wrote:
    Two bikes, both HTII, various LH cranks. Both nearly always have a crack/creak sound from the power stroke of the LH crank, particularly when out of the saddle. With a new BB, removed and reinstalled LH crank, it will stop for a bit and then come back. I've come to the conclusion that HTII creaks.

    HTII is largely silent, in my experience. I'd check your BB shell tolerances and tidiness of the threads.
    Ben

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  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    Two bikes, both HTII, various LH cranks. Both nearly always have a crack/creak sound from the power stroke of the LH crank, particularly when out of the saddle. With a new BB, removed and reinstalled LH crank, it will stop for a bit and then come back. I've come to the conclusion that HTII creaks.

    HTII is largely silent, in my experience. I'd check your BB shell tolerances and tidiness of the threads.

    On both bikes the cups screw in all the way by hand and the axle goes in without a fight. So I'm not sure there is a serious thread or alignment issue. Ho hum
  • It's likely not your problem, but if it's an Ultegra 6800 crank, check that there isn't a crack in the crank arm - no, seriously!

    There's been a few reports of crank arm failure (Ultegra 6800 in particular) - I've been unlucky and had it happen to me. Had been getting and annoying click/creak noise for about a month until I eventually noticed the crank and a gaping hole in my crank arm. You really don't want a crank arm failure, so best to rule that out.
  • i.e., this is the thread of which I speak.
    viewtopic.php?t=13064693
  • Loose cleat on your shoe
  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    It's likely not your problem, but if it's an Ultegra 6800 crank, check that there isn't a crack in the crank arm - no, seriously!

    There's been a few reports of crank arm failure (Ultegra 6800 in particular) - I've been unlucky and had it happen to me. Had been getting and annoying click/creak noise for about a month until I eventually noticed the crank and a gaping hole in my crank arm. You really don't want a crank arm failure, so best to rule that out.

    Yes, I saw that. I'm not on 6800 cranks :)
  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    Loose cleat on your shoe

    Could be. I'll check it. It's happened over two pair of shoes if it is that. Maybe it's my left ankle.
  • jlloyd
    jlloyd Posts: 131
    Is it definately comming from the crank? can you isolate the sound?

    Creaks and cracks can come from anywhere and 'feel' like they are comming through your BB.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Alex99 wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    Two bikes, both HTII, various LH cranks. Both nearly always have a crack/creak sound from the power stroke of the LH crank, particularly when out of the saddle. With a new BB, removed and reinstalled LH crank, it will stop for a bit and then come back. I've come to the conclusion that HTII creaks.

    HTII is largely silent, in my experience. I'd check your BB shell tolerances and tidiness of the threads.

    On both bikes the cups screw in all the way by hand and the axle goes in without a fight. So I'm not sure there is a serious thread or alignment issue. Ho hum

    If the cups genuinely do screw all the way in by hand that might be the problem. Next reinstall try a bit of PTFE tape or some very mild thread lock see if that cures your creak.

    Only time I had a tiny click from a screw-in 105 HT2 BB after 4 years I just replaced it with an Ultegra which has now been silent for 6. And I can't feel any roughness when turning the old one by hand so I've kept it as a spare.
    The press-fit HT2 on the summer bike is still silent after 4 years
  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    keef66 wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    Two bikes, both HTII, various LH cranks. Both nearly always have a crack/creak sound from the power stroke of the LH crank, particularly when out of the saddle. With a new BB, removed and reinstalled LH crank, it will stop for a bit and then come back. I've come to the conclusion that HTII creaks.

    HTII is largely silent, in my experience. I'd check your BB shell tolerances and tidiness of the threads.

    On both bikes the cups screw in all the way by hand and the axle goes in without a fight. So I'm not sure there is a serious thread or alignment issue. Ho hum

    If the cups genuinely do screw all the way in by hand that might be the problem. Next reinstall try a bit of PTFE tape or some very mild thread lock see if that cures your creak.

    Only time I had a tiny click from a screw-in 105 HT2 BB after 4 years I just replaced it with an Ultegra which has now been silent for 6. And I can't feel any roughness when turning the old one by hand so I've kept it as a spare.
    The press-fit HT2 on the summer bike is still silent after 4 years

    OK, worth a shot. Thanks
  • Alex99
    Alex99 Posts: 1,407
    JLloyd wrote:
    Is it definitely comming from the crank? can you isolate the sound?

    Creaks and cracks can come from anywhere and 'feel' like they are comming through your BB.

    Same issue with different wheels, so I think I can rule out the rear wheel as the source. Also, it's definitely a left hand side only creak. Thing is, I've had this on two bikes, several BBs, more than one LH crank arm on each bike, more than one pair of shoes, two pairs of pedals and several pairs of cleats. Same left side creak. Makes me wonder if I'm doing something in the installation as the only common factor seems to be me.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    My click that happens on pretty much every powered rotation is most likely down to the pedal spindle - that's what it was last time - I'd replaced the BB, checked the cleats etc etc - eventually took the pedal to bits, cleaned & regreased - but if you've swapped pedals then unless it's both pedals - it's not that ...
  • svetty
    svetty Posts: 1,904
    Cracking Cheese Grommit!
    FFS! Harden up and grow a pair :D
  • cyberknight
    cyberknight Posts: 1,238
    check your crank axle , i heard a crack from my BB area and the next day the left hand crank arm sheared off .
    FCN 3/5/9
  • jameses
    jameses Posts: 653
    Alex99 wrote:
    On both bikes the cups screw in all the way by hand

    That's your problem - you need to tighten them up properly. Had exactly this issue recently, creaking on the non-drive side when working hard. Needed to change my chain, so took the opportunity to remove the cranks and take a look at the BB. Although it was fairly firm in place, I managed maybe another 1/8th turn on either side. No creaks since.

    I think part of the problem is using an old size BB tool with the adaptor on the newer size cups, it's harder to get the combination to sit right so you can actually tighten up the BB as much as needed.