New fork? (scott scale 970 2017)

armandbig33

Hello, I once read on a forum that the scale 970 has a pretty bad fork.
I bought it 3 days ago and i already have around 30 km with it. The fork seems not to compress when rolling over objects....
I thought forks had to make the bike roll smooth.. .
In the store i couldn't tell if its a good fork or not (i am just a beginner as i said).
I need some advice does the fork have settings? And if it does how do i tweak them to make the fork compres easier?
Also if it doesn't tweak then what fork should i buy? Will a rockshox recon fit?

Thanks in advance!
(I'm desperate)

cooldad

The fork is?

Uber_Pod

Does the fork compress at all if you push down on the handlebars?
Is the fork lockout on?

The Rookie

This bike? https://www.evanscycles.com/scott-scale ... e-EV286101

Not the best fork, but not as bad as all that, have you set the preload/sag?

Have you got the lockout switched on?

It's a short travel fork on a race orientated bike, it's not going to soak up every bump you go over, it's an impossibility.

02gf74

Fork appears to be Suntour XCR RL-R fork
New £120 so pretty much low end, chromed steel stanchions are a giveaway.

Steel spring so you can't adjust for rider weight or terrain, only preload and rebound.... but still it ought to soak up the biggest bumps.

New forks tend to be a bit sticky so get in some more miles in and play around with the preload.

armandbig33

woahh...
You guys really are fast to answer...
ehmm yeah its a suntour xcr fork.....and the lockout is not active.What i did not describe exactly was that the fork does compress but it takes a lot of force to do so...
I guess its just that i expected a mountain bike fork to be "softer"
I don't have a clue on how to set up all those things, and does that mean i can't put on a higher end fork? (im still as new to these things as ever....)
You said it's a "short travel fork" on a race orientates bike, does that mean that only "short travel forks" will work for me here?

armandbig33

The rookie

yep that bike.

armandbig33

a rock shox recon costs only around 200 on ebay (here at least)
i dunno where else i can buy it .

The Rookie

Better than the Recon https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262950906830

Yes you can swap forks, you just need to make sure it's compatible with the frame (and headset bearing if yo don't want to buy a new one), yes you have to stick close to the original fork travel as its what the frame is designed for, both in terms of geometry (shape) and strength (longer forks incraese th stress on the frame).

cooldad

I would play around with the settings on yours first, and ride a bit.

You said you are a beginner - no fork might do what you expect it to do.

Slacken off the preload (there will be a knob), make sure the lockout isn't on - you ai9d it doesn't have but according to the specs it does, or the bike linked is different.

Play with tyre pressures.

Ride some more.

Then think about spending more money.

02gf74

armandbig33 wrote:

e.What i did not describe exactly was that the fork does compress but it takes a lot of force to do so...
?

Let's talk soon numbers.

When you sit on bike the forks should compress by about 10-15% so with 100mm travel is 10-15mm.

If you apply brakes and push down hard on the bars I'd expect fork to compress to about 75-80%.

Tie a piece of elastic or cable tie around the stanchion to see how it compares.

armandbig33

Thanks for all the help i'll try that..
And i wasn't thinking of buying a new one so soon....I will first ride this one a few more weeks and try all the settings..
What does that rebound thingy do exactly?

02gf74

armandbig33 wrote:

What does that rebound thingy do exactly?

see
https://bikemagic.com/how-to/mountain-b ... nners.html

armandbig33

So would a fork with 120 mm travel work for me ?

fbordi

Guys, I have the same bike as the OP. I am almost sure a tapered fork will fit into this bike. I wanted to confirm that.

The salesman told me that the frame from all the Scales are the same up to the ones made of carbon. Other models come with a tapered fork, so I assume it will work out (see https://www.evanscycles.com/scott-scale ... e-EV286084 vs. mine: https://www.evanscycles.com/scott-scale ... e-EV286101)

Is this the spec that tells me there is an adapter from a tapered headset to a non tapered fork?
Headset: Syncros OE Press Fit / Reduce 1.5" - 1 1/8" OD 50/61mm / ID 44/55mm

I was thinking of getting a rock shox reba RL tapered with 9mm axis and 100mm of travel. I am 6 ft 6 in / 198cm - 230 lbs / 104 kg. I am not very trusting of the suntour that came with the bike, I thought the reba would give more confidence to ride it a bit harder, while taking off 2 pounds of the bike. It would be easier to buy the 760 linked above, but the LBS had one last XXL 970 unit. Anyways, thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.