De Rosa Nuovo Classico 2017

Hanners

I've a set of tb14 in grey built by a certain someone from here they are great wheels and look the dogs, campag neutrons would look the dogs as well

bmxboy10

Mmmmmm.....

Polished Hunts

https://www.huntbikewheels.com/collecti ... er-dec-wk3

ugo.santalucia

Polished is way too retro for what you are trying to do... whereas anodised grey is perfect.

Pretty sure the last one is a forum user and I have built those

veronese68

ugo.santalucia wrote:

DT indexed shifters are excellent and very simple to maintain.

Son's bike has 9 speed DA downtube shifters, they just work really well. His bike is neglected and gets left out all over the place, he rarely does anything other than pumping the tyres up on occasion and only lubes the chain when it gets really noisy. But every time I jump on it the gears are absolutely spot on. I suspect this is mainly due to the simple cable run, but they really do work very well.

bmxboy10

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Polished is way too retro for what you are trying to do... whereas anodised grey is perfect.

Pretty sure the last one is a forum user and I have built those

Point taken

ugo.santalucia

Veronese68 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

DT indexed shifters are excellent and very simple to maintain.

Son's bike has 9 speed DA downtube shifters, they just work really well. His bike is neglected and gets left out all over the place, he rarely does anything other than pumping the tyres up on occasion and only lubes the chain when it gets really noisy. But every time I jump on it the gears are absolutely spot on. I suspect this is mainly due to the simple cable run, but they really do work very well.

And they are indexed, so none of the faff of 1980s friction shifting, where you needed to build the accuracy in your right hand for smooth shifting.
For me it's really the simplicity of not having inner + outer cable, with all the faff of fitting these things neatly under the handlebar, not to talk about internal cabling. The absence of an outer removes any element of inaccuracy from the shifting, as typically the problem is the outer cable getting chewed at the ends resulting in loss of tension in the inner. Replacing a cable takes seconds... not that you ever need to bother... inner cables, when they are not chewed by the STI/ERGO last forever. If I had a frame with bosses for DT shifters, it would be a no brainer

veronese68

ugo.santalucia wrote:

And they are indexed, so none of the faff of 1980s friction shifting, where you needed to build the accuracy in your right hand for smooth shifting.

Yes, indexed and always spot on they just click into place. Having grown up with old friction shifters they are a revelation. The front is friction, but being a twin with the limit screws set it only has two positions and also works flawlessly.

bikes`n`guns

TB14 in grey seem pretty rare online though. No one seems to have any stock.

ugo.santalucia

Bikes`n`guns wrote:

TB14 in grey seem pretty rare online though. No one seems to have any stock.

https://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/hson-t ... dised-grey

bmxboy10

So if you went grey TB14 would you go black hubs and spokes or silver (miche Primato)

ugo.santalucia

Spokes silver, whichever colour you find the hubs... Record are only black.

bmxboy10

TB14s on Record hubs ordered! A bit more dosh than the Zondas but at least they will cope with my weight ok!

ugo.santalucia

solboy10 wrote:

TB14s on Record hubs ordered! A bit more dosh than the Zondas but at least they will cope with my weight ok!

:-)

term1te

+1 for grey rims, especially with tan wall tyres. Here's my Master with Ambrosio Nemesis rims on Campagnolo Croce D'aune hubs. Vintage hubs, modern rims and spokes.

ugo.santalucia

Term1te wrote:

+1 for grey rims, especially with tan wall tyres. Here's my Master with Ambrosio Nemesis rims on Campagnolo Croce D'aune hubs. Vintage hubs, modern rims and spokes.

Very very nice

bmxboy10

Got to wait for the wheels and because of this I started doubting the rim choice that said I di still like the TBs.

What do you think it would look like with the new Mavic Open Pro USTs?

pnev

You, being undecided on something.... never

bmxboy10

Pnev wrote:

You, being undecided on something.... never

lesfirth

The more polished aluminium the better, and nothing Shimano within 100 yards of that frame.

Matthewfalle

lesfirth wrote:

The more polished aluminium the better, and nothing Shimano within 100 yards of that frame.

SRAM all the way it is then. Top suggestion that man.

ravey1981

This is going to be good..very very good

bmxboy10

lesfirth wrote:

The more polished aluminium the better, and nothing Shimano within 100 yards of that frame.

I thought long and hard about going for a silver GS but I think that will make it look too retro.

English John

I have downtube bosses on my Condor Fratello, and it is in for a respray.
If I went down the downtube shifter route , what 10 speed rear derailleur and cassette woud work to give low gears , such as 34-34 or even 34-36? I use the bike with laden panniers, and need help up hills

Any advice greatly appreciated

ravey1981

English John wrote:

I have downtube bosses on my Condor Fratello, and it is in for a respray.
If I went down the downtube shifter route , what 10 speed rear derailleur and cassette woud work to give low gears , such as 34-34 or even 34-36? I use the bike with laden panniers, and need help up hills

Any advice greatly appreciated

Is this on shimano?

Assuming it is, and that you aren't to bothered about a matching groupset then you can use any 9spd shimano MTB derailleur and 10spd mtb cassette. You can have a choice of many different ratios. Note it MUST be 9spd mech. MTB 10 speed is completely different and wont work with indexed shifters.

If you are just using friction shifters on the downtube then you can have anything you like.

bmxboy10

TB14S on Record hubs in Grey arrived today. They look soooo cool. Cheers Malcolm!

Now do I fit the Clement Strada LGG tan wall tyres or send em back and get some Vittoria Corsa G+?

wotnoshoeseh

solboy10 wrote:

TB14S on Record hubs in Grey arrived today. They look soooo cool. Cheers Malcolm!

Now do I fit the Clement Strada LGG tan wall tyres or send em back and get some Vittoria Corsa G+?

Pics please :?:

bmxboy10

wotnoshoeseh wrote:

solboy10 wrote:

TB14S on Record hubs in Grey arrived today. They look soooo cool. Cheers Malcolm!

Now do I fit the Clement Strada LGG tan wall tyres or send em back and get some Vittoria Corsa G+?

Pics please :?:

Mmmmmm

Matthewfalle

i know this may sound silly, but do those hold pressure for more than 72 hours?

its just that the Vittorias on Dirk don't and although he needs tan walls always pumping them up annoys me.

bmxboy10

No idea only just fitted them. Latex tubes are just weird I felt like a kids magician trying to fit them!

Matthewfalle

keep me updated dude - dirk's £70 tubs are about to turn into turbo tyres!