Wahoo Elemnt Mini

bendertherobot

http://uk.wahoofitness.com/devices/bike ... lemnt-mini

Well, Garmin, are you watching?

meanredspider

Oh wow - I'm impressed by Wahoo - really innovative and seemingly good-quality products. Well done them.

noodleman

Fair play to Wahoo. I've got an elemnt and love it. At last a company has finally come along and knocked Garmin for six. Probably take a while for their market share to get anywhere near garmin's numbers but in my experience Wahoo are a much more proactive company with great products.

bendertherobot

One of the biggest issues is price. Garmin are still pitching theirs as premium meaning little change out of £200. There are a few more features, but not many. The Mini will do well at that price. Would have been so easy to make it £120 or so.

Of course, it's not the only metric, Lezyne are doing ok but you don't see many people with their cheaper offerings.

bendertherobot

meanredspider wrote:

Oh wow - I'm impressed by Wahoo - really innovative and seemingly good-quality products. Well done them.

I'm leaning towards the Kickr Snap as my turbo for these reasons.

ryan_w-2

bendertherobot wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Oh wow - I'm impressed by Wahoo - really innovative and seemingly good-quality products. Well done them.

I'm leaning towards the Kickr Snap as my turbo for these reasons.

Love mine :!:

Tashman

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

stevie63

Tashman wrote:

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

Don't forget though this is basically a RFLKT in a new package so it relies on your phone to provide the GPS signal

Tashman

stevie63 wrote:

Tashman wrote:

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

Don't forget though this is basically a RFLKT in a new package so it relies on your phone to provide the GPS signal

Ah Ok, I hadn't read that properly. So this is the update on the RFLKT essentially which is why I could get mine at such a good price a few months back

meanredspider

I think that makes perfect sense - most people ride with a phone and, provided you aren't doing too long a ride, phone capability is fine. In fact, if it could share Google navigation instructions, it would be ideal for most people.

bendertherobot

Tashman wrote:

stevie63 wrote:

Tashman wrote:

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

Don't forget though this is basically a RFLKT in a new package so it relies on your phone to provide the GPS signal

Ah Ok, I hadn't read that properly. So this is the update on the RFLKT essentially which is why I could get mine at such a good price a few months back

It's not absolutely clear from their text. It does suggest a phone is needed for live tracking GPS which I take to mean group sharing rather than, well, being a GPS.

Still neat though. Will be interesting to see how long a phone lasts using it.

Tashman

bendertherobot wrote:

Tashman wrote:

stevie63 wrote:

Tashman wrote:

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

Don't forget though this is basically a RFLKT in a new package so it relies on your phone to provide the GPS signal

Ah Ok, I hadn't read that properly. So this is the update on the RFLKT essentially which is why I could get mine at such a good price a few months back

It's not absolutely clear from their text. It does suggest a phone is needed for live tracking GPS which I take to mean group sharing rather than, well, being a GPS.

Still neat though. Will be interesting to see how long a phone lasts using it.

My Sony E5 comfortably lasted the 5 plus hours for my London to Brghton ride with the RFLKT. You're not using the phones screen so it keeps it going much longer.

Websta24

bendertherobot wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Oh wow - I'm impressed by Wahoo - really innovative and seemingly good-quality products. Well done them.

I'm leaning towards the Kickr Snap as my turbo for these reasons.

Love my Snap.... Ive switched from a Garmin 520 to a Elemnt Bolt and its flawless (so far)

Any issues I've had, i raised a ticket and tech support was back to me on the next day, latest.

StillGoing

bendertherobot wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Oh wow - I'm impressed by Wahoo - really innovative and seemingly good-quality products. Well done them.

I'm leaning towards the Kickr Snap as my turbo for these reasons.

Wishing I'd held out for the Kickr direct mount.

mfin

If the Mini connected to non-wahoo sensors I'd be ordering one.

N0bodyOfTheGoat

This sounds like a step backwards to me, a cycle computer without its own dedicated GPS system relying on your mobile's GPS accuracy... Or lack of!

cgfw201

Sensible product, can seen this being a lot of people's first bike computer.

Not as good as a Bolt for longer rides, or more in depth features, but definitely a market for this. Could be popular with commuters too.

bobmcstuff

bendertherobot wrote:

Tashman wrote:

stevie63 wrote:

Tashman wrote:

I have the RFLKT and have been impressed. I know it's only basic but it does everything I want it to. This price point does make this tempting though

Don't forget though this is basically a RFLKT in a new package so it relies on your phone to provide the GPS signal

Ah Ok, I hadn't read that properly. So this is the update on the RFLKT essentially which is why I could get mine at such a good price a few months back

It's not absolutely clear from their text. It does suggest a phone is needed for live tracking GPS which I take to mean group sharing rather than, well, being a GPS.

Still neat though. Will be interesting to see how long a phone lasts using it.

It is clear enough in the features column -

PHONE MODE ONLY*
GPS RIDE TRACKING
LIVE TRACK PORTAL
TEXT & PHONE ALERTS

One of the positives of using a Garmin for me is not draining my phone battery, so I guess I would go for the Elemnt or Bolt.

My garmin has been annoying me for a while with random crashes and bugs so I had been thinking about one anyway.

kingstongraham

NitrousOxide wrote:

This sounds like a step backwards to me, a cycle computer without its own dedicated GPS system relying on your mobile's GPS accuracy... Or lack of!

Better than having a smartphone strapped to the front of your bike, I think.

That said, I don't find the phone GPS is as accurate as the Garmin, especially under trees and near tall buildings.

figbat

This piqued my interest when I got the e-mail about it a couple of days ago. I have used a RFLKT for a while now on my MTB and road bikes - it does all I want for now, is small, easy to use and very cost-effective. It takes about 5% of my phone (iP7) battery per hour of use, so can go much longer than I can (and has the option of showing your phone battery level on the display). I have been mulling getting an ELEMNT Bolt and then this arrives and, as noted above, it does look like an update to the RFLKT.

I'm torn now - a better RFLKT or a shiny, full-function Bolt...?

philbar72

lots of pro's. biggest con is not being able to pair with other brands sensors. and no inbuilt gps ( a 2$ chip)...

but yeah for the customer base they have in mind a good bit of kit...

bobmcstuff

philbar72 wrote:

lots of pro's. biggest con is not being able to pair with other brands sensors. and no inbuilt gps ( a 2$ chip)...

but yeah for the customer base they have in mind a good bit of kit...

Their website seems to claim it will pair with any ANT+ or BLE sensor?

Grill

Doesn't do power. I'm out.

StillGoing

The Mini is simply building the Wahoo stable. The Element for those who want a do all device, the Element Bolt for those that want a smaller do all device with claimed aero benefits and the Mini for those that don't want a screen full of data, rarely venture off the beaten track and will be quite happy with speed, cadence and heart rate numbers. Wahoo have their sh1t together.