2nd/Winter Bike - £1k suggestions

durhamwasp
durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
edited December 2018 in Road buying advice
Looking for a winter bike, with the following requirements, can anyone recommend any particular bike?

max 9kg
Tiagra and upwards
28mm tyre clearance
mudguard eyelets
34/50 with a 32 on the back

Hoping to keep to around £1000 budget, could go up to £1400 if the right one was on offer though.

TIA
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  • Doesn't have mudguard eyelets but Sigma have a 105 CAAD12 for £999, swap out the rear mech for a R8000 and you can run a 30 or 32 cassette.
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    P clips will let you have guards on most frames.
  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Doesn't have mudguard eyelets but Sigma have a 105 CAAD12 for £999, swap out the rear mech for a R8000 and you can run a 30 or 32 cassette.
    Cheers, looks a good buy, noticed its a 52/36 on the front though. Do Sigma do alterations to suit, before they ship out? Notice their website says all bikes are built in shop.
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  • durhamwasp wrote:
    Doesn't have mudguard eyelets but Sigma have a 105 CAAD12 for £999, swap out the rear mech for a R8000 and you can run a 30 or 32 cassette.
    Cheers, looks a good buy, noticed its a 52/36 on the front though. Do Sigma do alterations to suit, before they ship out? Notice their website says all bikes are built in shop.

    Don't think so but 36 x 32 would be similar to 34 x 30.
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  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    Merida Ride 400. Aluminium frame, Shimano 105 5800, clearance for mudguards and 28mm tyres, 50/34 but 11/28 cassette. £800 means you could easily afford to switch the rear derailleur and cassette and still have change.

    I bought a 2016 one for my winter trainer/turbo bike, but it's so good, I've used it even in decent weather instead of my carbon Reacto.
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  • janwal
    janwal Posts: 489
    Trek Domane S5 has all your requirements including 105 some good offers on them around at the moment.
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    philthy3 wrote:
    Merida Ride 400. Aluminium frame, Shimano 105 5800, clearance for mudguards and 28mm tyres, 50/34 but 11/28 cassette. £800 means you could easily afford to switch the rear derailleur and cassette and still have change.

    I bought a 2016 one for my winter trainer/turbo bike, but it's so good, I've used it even in decent weather instead of my carbon Reacto.


    Actually, according to this, the 2017 version does come with an 32/11 cassette.

    http://www.cyclesuk.com/en/gb/Merida-Ri ... s0QAvD_BwE
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  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Thanks a lot! Some good suggestions there to think about.

    That Merida looks good! Does it have mudguard eyelets?

    Ive also been looking at Dolan RDX and Ribble CGR
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  • Have a look at the Dolan RDX in the your bike section, not sure id want that BB cabling layout.
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  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Yeah saw that earlier, didn't look great!
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  • Also, neither the RDX or the CGR are going to tick your "max 9kg" box I'm afraid, even allowing for a decent wheel upgrade.

    Can't see you hitting that weight limit with this budget if you go for discs...
  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    durhamwasp wrote:
    Thanks a lot! Some good suggestions there to think about.

    That Merida looks good! Does it have mudguard eyelets?

    Ive also been looking at Dolan RDX and Ribble CGR

    I don't use mudguards with mine, but there's enough clearance for the type you mount behind the calliper like race blades.
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  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Yeah have realised Discs will probably rule out my weight idea, and im not particularly bothered about them either.

    Think the Dolan Preffesio is probably leading the race at the moment
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  • Preffisio with 105 came out at 10kg in this review:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... sio-50024/

    The new Spesh Allez is supposed to have mudguard mounts, and I think all the frames are now E5 alloy so maybe the 105 model might hit your weight mark? Or go second hand?
  • pmannion9
    pmannion9 Posts: 280
    What about a Kinesis T2?
    Build to suit budget.
  • durhamwasp
    durhamwasp Posts: 1,247
    Preffisio with 105 came out at 10kg in this review:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... sio-50024/

    The new Spesh Allez is supposed to have mudguard mounts, and I think all the frames are now E5 alloy so maybe the 105 model might hit your weight mark? Or go second hand?
    Cheers, that Allez looks good!
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  • From the sound of your original post I think the new Allez is a good match, they've made a good move upping the tyre clearance to 28mm and sticking rack/guard mounts on it.
  • skoot44
    skoot44 Posts: 2
    Another vote for the Kinesis T2. Mine was built with Tiagra (Tektro brakes - not great) and with full mudguards all under £700
  • TonyJams
    TonyJams Posts: 214
    Personally I'd go for a Genesis CdF that comes in under a grand in current sales BUT its about 11KG (not a problem for me for a winter bike but I saw you said you wanted lighter). Swings and roundabouts with a nice solid pair of steel forks I guess.
    Alternatively a bit lighter is the Genesis Equilibrium - also well within your budget at the moment. Both bikes that will easily give a generation/lifetime of use.
    All here along with some other options
  • https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Cube-Attain-Ra ... _97443.htm

    9.8kg but ticks all the boxes otherwise.
  • gimpl
    gimpl Posts: 269
    What's your current best/dry bike?

    I used to have two different bikes and maybe it was psychological but I used to hate going from one to the other and being in a different position. I now have two Defys, a CF one very nicely specced for best and an aluminium one (also quite nicely specced) with mudguards on for wet weather.

    So - my advice, get what you've already got.
  • Gimpl wrote:
    I now have two Defys, a CF one very nicely specced for best and an aluminium one (also quite nicely specced) with mudguards on for wet weather.

    :roll:
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  • w00dster
    w00dster Posts: 880
    I'm with Gimpl on this, my winter bike is a Alu Trek Domane, set up exactly the same as my Carbon Trek Domane. Other club mates also have the same winter / summer bikes, just cheaper versions.
    One of the other reasons for me doing this was I wanted disc brakes and wide tyres, so I can now swap wheels / tyres without faffing.
    Does seem boring I know, but works well for me.
  • jolmes
    jolmes Posts: 144
    Just finished a Kinesis Racelight T3 tonight for a smidge under £1k with full 105 and R650 brakes. Good bargain hunting and use of sales helped a lot. The mudguards will push it over £1k but well worth it.
  • rollemynot
    rollemynot Posts: 436
    I have just bought this.... a bit heavy but should be bullet proof

    http://www.swinnertoncycles.co.uk/bikes ... ike-p54061
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198
    If youre shelling out a grand goes for one that accepts proper mudguards. I brought a giant defy for this purpose and have proper guards is a different league to that flappy - multi adjusting things.
  • rowlers
    rowlers Posts: 1,614
    Ive got a Kinesis Pro6, 105, HyDr, with Archtype on Ultegra hubs at about £1200 all in.
    The new Pro6 has internal cabling too!
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    tifosi ck7, it is simply a good bike. Dolan sell something similar too.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke Posts: 402
    Round are way almost everyone rides a Ribble winter bike for the winter/ wet weather.
    Luke