Garage security

webboo
webboo Posts: 6,087
edited July 2017 in Road general
I'm just about to move house and the new garage only has access through the up and over door. So my usual security measures of bolting the up and over door will not work.
Has anyone any experience of using a garage defender or similar. I rather not go with ground anchors and chains as there will be other stuff that will be worth knicking but can't chained down.

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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    I would brick up the front.
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  • Scoob84
    Scoob84 Posts: 76
    I used to live in a house with a garage like this. We had a make shift L shaped bracket that could be padlocked to the floor. When locked, it would prevent the garage door being able to open.

    It worked the same as the example in the following link, but didn't look so fancy.

    https://www.ultrasecuritycentre.co.uk/h ... door-locks
  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    If at all possible, don't keep any valuable bikes in the garage, but in your house. I thought my garage very secure but I was wrong. Insurance claim was £15K. The police advised me that if the determined thieves know what you have, and decide to take it, nothing will stop them.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    proto wrote:
    If at all possible, don't keep any valuable bikes in the garage, but in your house. I thought my garage very secure but I was wrong. Insurance claim was £15K. The police advised me that if the determined thieves know what you have, and decide to take it, nothing will stop them.
    To be honest, that's true in the house as well.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    proto wrote:
    If at all possible, don't keep any valuable bikes in the garage, but in your house. I thought my garage very secure but I was wrong. Insurance claim was £15K. The police advised me that if the determined thieves know what you have, and decide to take it, nothing will stop them.
    There isn't room in the house for bikes. I'm not sure there is room for me and the missus.
  • fat daddy
    fat daddy Posts: 2,605
    chain her up in the garage as well then ... she can shout if anyone breaks in
  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    Defense in depth...ground anchor on the garage door, alarm it and chain up those mothers so they're extremely difficult to steal from the floor or wall. If they're expensive, its not unknown for thieves to cut through the frame and then sell the components separately, scrapping the frame.

    As has been said, if thieves really want to steal stuff they will find a way unless you make it very very very difficult for them.
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    As I said I'm looking towards door security rather than ground anchors as the garage will have a lot of other things in it including a climbing wall.
    The house and garage are in a North Yorkshire rural area, small town or large village just off the Main Street. So chance of been seen putting bikes in the garage is highly likely but chances of breaking without being noticed is similar.
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    Put a camera on it? They're pretty cheap nowadays.
    I'm left handed, if that matters.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,824
    I have a pair of these on my garage door. The door frame needs to be quite sturdy but they are certainly an extra bit of defence.
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  • eric_draven
    eric_draven Posts: 1,192
    Scoob84 wrote:
    I used to live in a house with a garage like this. We had a make shift L shaped bracket that could be padlocked to the floor. When locked, it would prevent the garage door being able to open.

    It worked the same as the example in the following link, but didn't look so fancy.

    https://www.ultrasecuritycentre.co.uk/h ... door-locks

    I made myself something similar to the GD20,I'm fabricator so knocked some up out off cuts at work,a few friends have seen it and have been quite impressed looking at it,whether how good it is I don't know,I also have a heavy security mesh over the window
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Veronese68 wrote:
    I have a pair of these on my garage door. The door frame needs to be quite sturdy but they are certainly an extra bit of defence.
    $$$-ENFI2-1000x1000.jpg
    That looks like it might fit the bill not too obvious.
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548
    A mate of mine fitted the above follwoing a break in - they're easy to fit and certainly difficult to get past
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  • Frank Wilson
    Frank Wilson Posts: 930
    Park the car right up to the garage door.
  • bobones
    bobones Posts: 1,215
    A few of the garages around my way were broken into one night last year. Luckily, ours wasn't one of them, but it was a big wake up call for me. I immediately started parking my car right against the door, then installed a cheap motion alarm, applied some discrete "this garage is alarmed" warning stickers to the door, and finally fitted the Enfield Garage bolts shown above, which are very neat and easy to use. A determined thief could easily defeat the bolts just by cutting the door skin around them, but in doing so, they'd make a lot of noise, set off the motion alarm and probably be seen quite easily. A casual, opportunist thief, will give your garage one look, and move on to another less well protected door. Definitely recommend those Endfield bolts as a cheap and easy way of beefing up security.
  • zanelad
    zanelad Posts: 269
    "Park the car right up to the garage door".

    Then they'll just break a window on the car and release the handbrake.
  • Frank Wilson
    Frank Wilson Posts: 930
    Zanelad wrote:
    "Park the car right up to the garage door".

    Then they'll just break a window on the car and release the handbrake.

    Not if it has an electronic handbrake, won't release without the engine running.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    Zanelad wrote:
    "Park the car right up to the garage door".

    Then they'll just break a window on the car and release the handbrake.

    Not if it has an electronic handbrake, won't release without the engine running.

    Mine will - but not without the key being in the ignition and the brake pedal pressed.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Roller door? We needed to replace our Up and over door - so replaced with an electric roller door - supposedly far better security - it's certainly better than the up and over which TBH, you could break in just by bending the door. Mind u - in our neighbourhood I could go out and leave the doors/windows open without much worry ...

    IMO, any obvious "extra" security just tells the more intelligent theif that there's something worth taking.
  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734
    Alarm and external light, thieves like to work in the quiet shadows.
  • pippi_langsamer-2
    pippi_langsamer-2 Posts: 1,470
    Slowbike wrote:
    Roller door? We needed to replace our Up and over door - so replaced with an electric roller door - supposedly far better security - it's certainly better than the up and over which TBH, you could break in just by bending the door. Mind u - in our neighbourhood I could go out and leave the doors/windows open without much worry ...

    IMO, any obvious "extra" security just tells the more intelligent theif that there's something worth taking.

    I'd second this. We also have an electric roller door, and the fact it runs in tracks all the way down to the floor means (theoretically), it should be a lot harder to open like a sardine tin- which seems to be the common method employed on regular up-n-overs. A central floor locking bolt on an up-n-over won't prevent this I don't think as they'll just crow bar the corners.
  • trekvet
    trekvet Posts: 223
    Keep the bike indoors. Yes, we know no room, but saves all that flaffing about with locks. I keep mine upstairs, in the warm and dry. Wheels hang from 2 of those big orange hooks then swings up with a pulley system, but you could use Sheila Maid fittings from ironmongers, with loop in the hessian to double back over top tube, lock with wood, and swing it up. Or if carbon use two rope system, one for stem spacers and other for seat-tube clamp area.
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    TrekVet wrote:
    Keep the bike indoors. Yes, we know no room, but saves all that flaffing about with locks. I keep mine upstairs, in the warm and dry. Wheels hang from 2 of those big orange hooks then swings up with a pulley system, but you could use Sheila Maid fittings from ironmongers, with loop in the hessian to double back over top tube, lock with wood, and swing it up. Or if carbon use two rope system, one for stem spacers and other for seat-tube clamp area.
    I presume you are single or will be shortly which would be the case if I tried this. We have just downsized so now only have 2 bedrooms and due to a lack of wardrobe space I am struggling to fine room for all my tweed suits.
  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    After my garage was broken into (they used a big crow bar to lever the door out of the frame, the expensive lock eventually burst) the police advised that thieves don't like noise and an alarm is the best deterrent. Security lights considered to be a bit of a waste of time.

    At least three of our cycling club have had garages broken into. All expensive bikes stolen, plus carbon race wheels. These weren't opportunists, in every case the thieves knew what they were after. Again, the police advised it's very difficult to stop them. I've even heard of thieves going through the roof of garages to get inside.

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