Reliable Weather App

kleinstroker
kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
edited May 2017 in Commuting chat
I have been using WeatherPro for a few years now and even paid the subscription, but recently their forecasts are complete pant. Yesterday for example they completely missed the 8 hr period of rain that hit London at lunchtime, and I got soaked cycling back without mudguards or rain covers etc
My morning routine always includes a check on the app just before I set off to see if I need a rainproof or fit rear mudguards. I mean just how crap do you have to be to miss a 200 mile wide rainstorm 2 hrs before it hits.
Anybody recommend something a bit more reliable, don't mind paying if worthwhile

Cheers

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  • arthur_scrimshaw
    arthur_scrimshaw Posts: 2,596
    I have been using WeatherPro for a few years now and even paid the subscription, but recently their forecasts are complete pant. Yesterday for example they completely missed the 8 hr period of rain that hit London at lunchtime, and I got soaked cycling back without mudguards or rain covers etc
    My morning routine always includes a check on the app just before I set off to see if I need a rainproof or fit rear mudguards. I mean just how crap do you have to be to miss a 200 mile wide rainstorm 2 hrs before it hits.
    Anybody recommend something a bit more reliable, don't mind paying if worthwhile

    Cheers

    If you are just interested in rain I use rain alarm - shows the rain clouds in a animated form so you can see if they are heading your way and what intensity they are, also sends alerts to your phone of imminent rain showers. Much more reliable than a forecast because it's the actual weather you're seeing. Has annoying ads on the free version but if you're android they are much less troubling and better that on iOS which seem to take up most of the screen (on an ipad, may be better on an iphone).

    http://www.rain-alarm.com
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    I use the Met Office one. It correctly predicted yesterday afternoon's rain, but only after I'd already arrived at the office wearing only summer kit with no gilet in the pocket having been assured of a fine day by the app before I left. At least I'd left the raceblades on.

    Not sure if that's a recommendation or not...
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Weatherpro uses it's own mash-up of data from a variety of sources but is predominantly GFS data. This is generally not that accurate.

    The met office one is generally accurate, as is the BBC. If you can find one that uses the WRF forecasting methods (some locations on Windguru use it) then this is very, very good.
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Weatherpro uses it's own mash-up of data from a variety of sources but is predominantly GFS data. This is generally not that accurate.

    The met office one is generally accurate, as is the BBC. If you can find one that uses the WRF forecasting methods (some locations on Windguru use it) then this is very, very good.

    I've actually got WindGuru but deleted it since I stopped sea fishing, will dig it out again. Cheers
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    hopkinb wrote:
    I use the Met Office one. It correctly predicted yesterday afternoon's rain, but only after I'd already arrived at the office wearing only summer kit with no gilet in the pocket having been assured of a fine day by the app before I left. At least I'd left the raceblades on.

    Not sure if that's a recommendation or not...

    Lucky you had mudguards on the back at least.
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Weatherpro uses it's own mash-up of data from a variety of sources but is predominantly GFS data. This is generally not that accurate.

    The met office one is generally accurate, as is the BBC. If you can find one that uses the WRF forecasting methods (some locations on Windguru use it) then this is very, very good.

    I've actually got WindGuru but deleted it since I stopped sea fishing, will dig it out again. Cheers


    Not all of the locations on there have WRF, quite a few rely on GFS. When you are in a location like mine where you have both available and can compare it's very noticeable how poor the GFS based forecast is and how good the WRF 9km one is.
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  • schlepcycling
    schlepcycling Posts: 1,614
    I have been using WeatherPro for a few years now and even paid the subscription, but recently their forecasts are complete pant. Yesterday for example they completely missed the 8 hr period of rain that hit London at lunchtime, and I got soaked cycling back without mudguards or rain covers etc
    My morning routine always includes a check on the app just before I set off to see if I need a rainproof or fit rear mudguards. I mean just how crap do you have to be to miss a 200 mile wide rainstorm 2 hrs before it hits.
    Anybody recommend something a bit more reliable, don't mind paying if worthwhile

    Cheers
    This is exactly my experience with the WeatherPro paid subscription, it used to be brilliant but recently has gone right down the toilet and like Kleinstroker I got absolutely soaked on my way home last night after the app said that rain wouldn't start until 1800 by which time I'd have been nicely home and dry.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,052
    I checked every weather services available this morning, no rain until 3pm yet it's been drizzling non stop all day
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Dunno about weather forecasting but what's the harm in having your mudguards on anyway and taking a waterproof ?
  • davesnothere
    davesnothere Posts: 620
    I use dark sky. Generally i find it to be the most accurate.

    I would say however that the weather has been weird the last 2 weeks and forecasts vary wildly from source to source
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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 5,845
    I've not tried the app version, but appears to have one, but recently I been quite impressed at the forecasting from Wunderground.

    https://www.wunderground.com/

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r&hl=en_GB
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Fenix wrote:
    Dunno about weather forecasting but what's the harm in having your mudguards on anyway and taking a waterproof ?

    I have just taken it off for the summer. Bike looks better and doesn't clip my feet when I get on the bike.
    It's one of those Swan ones for rear.
    Cheers
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Fenix wrote:
    Dunno about weather forecasting but what's the harm in having your mudguards on anyway and taking a waterproof ?

    I leave the guards on all winter. Prefer the look of the bike without them though, so only clip them on if rain is forecast. I normally have a spare gilet thing here at work, or carry one in the rear pocket but had taken it home for a wash and a re-proof. Bag day is only Monday morning and Friday evening, so I travel light. My own fault if I get wet I suppose...
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    I've not tried the app version, but appears to have one, but recently I been quite impressed at the forecasting from Wunderground.

    https://www.wunderground.com/

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r&hl=en_GB

    That's another one that relies heavily on the GFS model. It's passable at best. It's also American. If you want a better GFS model for the UK then you should look at something like Big Salty - https://bigsalty.com/en/
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  • Weatherpro uses it's own mash-up of data from a variety of sources but is predominantly GFS data. This is generally not that accurate.

    The met office one is generally accurate, as is the BBC. If you can find one that uses the WRF forecasting methods (some locations on Windguru use it) then this is very, very good.

    I've actually got WindGuru but deleted it since I stopped sea fishing, will dig it out again. Cheers

    Search for "Windy" on the App Store. It's a really pretty skin on top of the actually excellent Windguru back end. Really rate it.
  • warreng
    warreng Posts: 535
    When I finally lose it and purchase an automatic weapon I'll be starting off at the BBC weather centre. Last night was a joke. Wendy Hurrell just stands there "Ooooh, look at me, look at me in my pwetty dwess" and then neglects to tell everyone it's going to absolutely chuck it down

    In short - no. I've not found a solution
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,052
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Radar, specifically rain today.

    If there's rain around, you'll see where it is and what direction it's going.

    That's frontal stuff anyway, it's the stuff that just pops up out of nowhere (as it does in the summer months) no app will be that good.
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  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    edited May 2017
    This is the forecast from yesterday at about 3pm

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    And this is the radar..

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    There is no match at all between the two, not sure if the app is faulty, as that is use total bollocks
  • arthur_scrimshaw
    arthur_scrimshaw Posts: 2,596
    This is the forecast from yesterday at about 3pm

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    And this is the radar..

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    There is no match at all between the two, not sure if the app is faulty, as that is use total ****


    As I said earlier, the rain alarm app gave exactly that result, it was spot on whilst the BBC weather app said it was sunny!
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    I've not tried the app version, but appears to have one, but recently I been quite impressed at the forecasting from Wunderground.

    https://www.wunderground.com/

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r&hl=en_GB

    That's another one that relies heavily on the GFS model. It's passable at best. It's also American. If you want a better GFS model for the UK then you should look at something like Big Salty - https://bigsalty.com/en/

    I've been using Wunderground for I guess about 5 years and I've actually found it extremely good. It has rain radar and local weather station "live" data on wind direction and temperature/humidity. I've been caught by the odd shower over the years but hardly ever.
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    This is one of my favourite sites for reliable weather:
    http://www.opodo.com/
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