Can you identify these riders?

ratsbeyfus
ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
edited April 2017 in Pro race
Hi - a friend is buying some products for her cycling mad husband with the picture below on them... can any of you help identify the riders in the photos? (Did a google image search for them but it was unsuccessful.)

Is the rider in front Hugo Koblet?

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There are also 2 British riders behind, but it's quite hard to see them:

vintage-racing-cycling-glass-case-p5802-41839_medium.jpg

Is one Tommy Simpson?

I'm guessing the image is from a Tour in the sixties when national rather than trade teams competed against each other...

Any ideas?

I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

@ratsbey

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    The photo is most likely from 1955 - the first year GB sent a national team. The Swiss team rode with numbers beginning with 7.

    Koblet had already done his last Tour by then, so it's not him.

    Here's the 1955 startlist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _de_France
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Ah, here you go. Ken Mitchell and Freddie Krebs (and unnamed Swiss rider), 1955

    http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-p ... d164829492
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    I have a wash bag with that pic

    More exciting news as I get it...
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Ferdi Kubler - he has a longer nose than that pic makes it look but Could be. Fred Krebs for the guy without a hat?
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Ah already answered!
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Ferdi Kubler - he has a longer nose than that pic makes it look but Could be. Fred Krebs for the guy without a hat?
    Unlikely to be Kubler. Mitchell and Krebs were in the autobus, Kubler nearer the sharp end

    This is that day's stage: http://www.letour.fr/HISTO/us/TDF/1955/900/etape.html
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Annoyingly you can't quite see the number on the Swiss rider's back. Otherwise we could use Rich's start list to identify him.

    I'm actually more interested in solving this than watching Romandie today.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Might I offer up #73 Emilio Croci-Torti

    Emilio-Croci-Torti-Schweiz.jpg

    After cycling he became an artist. He died in 2013

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  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    Re the swiss rider - The number after the 7 on his back looks like it could be an 8. If so, is it Otto Meili?
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Bianchi Dave wrote:
    Re the swiss rider - The number after the 7 on his back looks like it could be an 8. If so, is it Otto Meili?

    Google image search, could be him.
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  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Bianchi Dave wrote:
    Re the swiss rider - The number after the 7 on his back looks like it could be an 8. If so, is it Otto Meili?

    Google image search, could be him.

    http://www.altepostkarten.ch/ak%20sport ... detail.jpg
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Definitely Otto Meili. That is a 78 on his back.

    This question has been asked on the interweb before.

    http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic ... sts-please
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Cor - you people are amazing! I thought this thread would sink and die without a chase whilst I was too busy at work to keep an eye on it... I send my heartfelt thanks by mashing my thumb into the assorted emojis on offer :idea: :) :oops: :?: :roll: :arrow: :idea:
    X

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • Leerf
    Leerf Posts: 7
    Wow good work. As the cycling mad person in question I now need to know what road they are descending on, what position they are in the race and what they had for breakfast :wink:
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Leerf wrote:
    Wow good work. As the cycling mad person in question I now need to know what road they are descending on, what position they are in the race and what they had for breakfast :wink:
    The descent is probably Vasson or La Turbie, which were the final passes of the day. The climbs that day were: Vars, Cayolle, Vasson and La Turbie

    Their stage results were:
    65. Fred Krebs +48'05
    70. Otto Meili 48'59
    78. Ken Mitchell +55'17

    The Swiss rider had Alpen and Toblerone for breakfast. The Brits had black pudding and porridge.

    Incidently, here's another photo of the trio (someone may recognise the view)

    swiss-rider-leads-british-riders-ken-mitchell-and-freddie-krebs-the-picture-id164829511?s=612x612
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  • Leerf
    Leerf Posts: 7
    Thank you you beautiful person. Love the internets
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Leerf wrote:
    Thank you you beautiful person. Love the internets

    Easy there... Rich already thinks he's the smartest! Don't have him thinking he's the best looking as well... :wink:

    Seriously though, good efforts from everyone above.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    dish_dash wrote:
    Don't have him thinking he's the best looking as well... :wink:
    I may have delusions about my intelligence, but I've never had them about my looks (short, bald & fat)
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    se-xy
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    It's weird how you form an image of someone online.

    I always thought of Rich as an ex hockey player who keeps himself in reasonable shape. With hair.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Milton50 wrote:
    I always thought of Rich as an ex hockey player who keeps himself in reasonable shape. With hair.
    Ex? I'll have you know I'm playing in the Hockey Wales Challenge Final tomorrow: https://hockeywales.altiusrt.com/matches/27
    As for keeping in shape - I'm a goalkeeper, not much running around
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  • spam02
    spam02 Posts: 178
    RichN95 wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    I always thought of Rich as an ex hockey player who keeps himself in reasonable shape. With hair.
    Ex? I'll have you know I'm playing in the Hockey Wales Challenge Final tomorrow: https://hockeywales.altiusrt.com/matches/27
    As for keeping in shape - I'm a goalkeeper, not much running around

    Good luck for tomorrow!
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Noooooooooooooooo! You can't be short, bald and fat Rich! That's the exact opposite of my longtime image of you. Please don't tell me the 'N95' has nothing to do with your love of old Nokia/Symbian phones either...

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Happy birthday again Leerf btw :-)

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey

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