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Noise from Mavic Aksium

essex-commuteressex-commuter Posts: 2,188
edited May 2017 in The workshop
Had my new Ribble bike a couple of weeks now, clocked up just over 400 miles.

I’ve got an annoying click coming from the rear Mavic Aksium.

It happens once every revolution.
It happens whether I’m pedalling or not (so not bottom bracket).
Happens if I’m standing or seated (so not saddle/seat post).
If I lean forward and take weight off the back wheel it goes away.
If I spin the wheel without any weight on it, it’s quiet.
The 11 speed Shimano cassette is tight.

Ribble have said I can send it back and they will investigate, but before I go to the hassle of that does anyone have any ideas?

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  • Man Of LardMan Of Lard Posts: 903
    The pawls in the freehub (which is made of camembert on a Mavic Aksium) are failing to disengage cleanly - short term solution is to remove the freehub, clean & relubricate the pawls and reassemble.

    Longer term solution is to decant them into the recycling and buy wheels with non-cheese freehub.
  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,748
    Doesn't sound like that to me, it sounds more like the cottage cheese balls that masquerade as wheel bearings are doing their normal magic trick of try to turn into 20 sided die.
  • DJFishDJFish Posts: 49
    Have you got discs?
    I just solved my annoying click by tweaking the brake calliper position...
  • essex-commuteressex-commuter Posts: 2,188
    DJFish wrote:
    Have you got discs?
    I just solved my annoying click by tweaking the brake calliper position...

    No discs.

    Wheel went back to Ribble, they stripped it, couldn't find anything wrong. They test rode it, said nothing wrong. They sent it back to me, now it's perfect.

    I have no answer.
  • keef66keef66 Posts: 13,123
    You have a quiet wheel though...

    If it comes back:

    Is the valve stem rattling in the hole in the rim? Easy to stick a bit of elec tape round it to see if it silences it.

    Spot of oil on each spoke head in the hub and at any point where they cross?
  • essex-commuteressex-commuter Posts: 2,188
    keef66 wrote:
    You have a quiet wheel though...

    If it comes back:

    Is the valve stem rattling in the hole in the rim? Easy to stick a bit of elec tape round it to see if it silences it.

    Spot of oil on each spoke head in the hub and at any point where they cross?

    I do have a quiet wheel and it's bliss. I'm OCD with creaks and clicks on the bikes. Checked the valve stem, that was OK. Didn't oil any spokes though. I told Ribble I was 90% sure the noise was from the spoke/rim or spoke/hub interface, after 30 years of riding you kinda get to know noises.
  • keef66keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Me too. I love the sound of a quiet bike. I'm pathological in pursuit of minor creaks, clicks and rattles that other riders appear happy to tolerate.
  • Had my new Ribble bike a couple of weeks now, clocked up just over 400 miles.


    I’ve got an annoying click coming from the rear Mavic Aksium.


    It happens once every revolution.

    It happens whether I’m pedalling or not (so not bottom bracket).

    Happens if I’m standing or seated (so not saddle/seat post).

    If I lean forward and take weight off the back wheel it goes away.

    If I spin the wheel without any weight on it, it’s quiet.

    The 11 speed Shimano cassette is tight.


    Ribble have said I can send it back and they will investigate, but before I go to the hassle of that does anyone have any ideas?

    Just seen this post and I've had EXACTLY the same issue driving me nuts for the last 18 months!
    Unfortunately I bought the wheel from Acycles and even before they went into liquidation they were not helping to solve the problem.
    Stripping down the hub and rebuilding is beyond me. Can anyone give any tips as to how to resolve this issues please?
    Thanks
  • cruffcruff Posts: 1,517
    If you've had an Aksium for 18 months I'm surprised the freehub still works at all. As noted above, the from age-like consistency of the pawls and bearings in there would generally see the pawls start failing to release after six months (not an issue only with cheap Mavic wheels, - Google 'Mavic squeal of death' for info) and the bearings turn into tiny little replicas of 20p pieces after a year.

    I'd suggest replacing the freehub entirely with something that isn't sh1te, but that's probably not what you want to hear...

    I'd never ride Aksiums - they're censored quality and disintegrate at the sight of mud and water, so useless on a winter bike, and too slow and cumbersome to use on a decent bike. My advice would be to replace with something like a Fulcrum 5 if it's a commuter/winter bike or Ksyriums if it's a 'good' bike
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • cruff said:

    If you've had an Aksium for 18 months I'm surprised the freehub still works at all. As noted above, the from age-like consistency of the pawls and bearings in there would generally see the pawls start failing to release after six months (not an issue only with cheap Mavic wheels, - Google 'Mavic squeal of death' for info) and the bearings turn into tiny little replicas of 20p pieces after a year.

    I'd suggest replacing the freehub entirely with something that isn't sh1te, but that's probably not what you want to hear...

    I'd never ride Aksiums - they're censored quality and disintegrate at the sight of mud and water, so useless on a winter bike, and too slow and cumbersome to use on a decent bike. My advice would be to replace with something like a Fulcrum 5 if it's a commuter/winter bike or Ksyriums if it's a 'good' bike

    Thanks for your advice. Mine were actually Mavic Allroads but exactly the same symptoms! I got them for my £800 Specialized hybrid that I use for commuting and trails with the kids, so I needed a wheel that took disc brakes and 35mm tyres. The clicking noise drove me nuts so I reverted back to an old wheel after a few weeks - which is now absolutely dead, hence looking into it again.

    Not sure whether to try and get it fixed by someone who knows what the problem is or accept it was £150 down the toilet and get something else?
  • cruffcruff Posts: 1,517
    Depends on your budget. If it's just the pawls you can get them re-greased, if it's the bearings, get them replaced. Problem is, it will inevitably happen again, You could just replace the whole freehub, but it's probably not going to be much more expensive to get a new rear wheel instead - one that isn't going to disintegrate :)
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
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