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Sutton_RiderSutton_Rider Posts: 436
edited March 2017 in Road general
I was told at my LBS today that I shouldn't ride with a turbo skewer on the back wheel as it can come undone easily and that I should use a proper skewer such as the one that came with the bike. I've never heard this before, is it true?
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  • fat daddyfat daddy Posts: 2,632
    I don't know if it's true ... but no way I would ride using the turbo skewer that I have because it doesn't lock in anywhere near as far as a regular skewer. It feels like it could come undone over rough ground .... so it's believable that this is the case.
  • hambinihambini Posts: 113
    Sounds like rubbish. Clamping force is clamping force.
  • fat daddyfat daddy Posts: 2,632
    Clamping force isn't the issue, the cam that keeps the skewer tight only closes 90deg so it seats in the clamp better ... it's really easy to undo .... a normal skewer goes past the 90deg meaning you tighten it at firdtcehdn trying to release it
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,003
    Probably depends on the particular brand of turbo skewer. The ones I have are just regular 'old school' style skewers which are every bit as good - if not better - than modern skewers, albeit a bit heavier. I agree with Hambini, it does sound like BS.
  • BobbinogsBobbinogs Posts: 4,928
    I use a tacx qr skewer that cost a fiver and yet it has a decent internal cam. I sometimes leave it on for rides and have never had an issue. I would trust that more than some of the expensive fancy dan titanium jobs on sale which are external cam but save 2.3g of weight, approx.
  • ayjayceeayjaycee Posts: 1,333
    edited March 2017
    If by 'turbo skewer', you mean the chrome plated things that usually come with a trainer, when I were a lad, they are what used to be called just plain 'skewers' and they can be done up plenty tight enough. Personally, I've got external cam skewers on two bikes (as fitted when I bought them) and internal cam skewers (Ultegra 6800) on another. Touch wood, never had a wheel fall off any of them yet.
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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,592
    I rode round for years with a turbo skewer on the bike without any mishaps. It always seemed a pretty good robust skewer to me, probably more so than the one that came with the bike.
  • Thanks for all your input guys. It seems that most feel the turbo skewer is OK, I've ridden for 3 years using such a skewer with no issues. Anyway, as I seldom use the summer bike on the trainer I've swapped the skewer over, just in case.
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    Ridley Fenix SL Ultegra Di2 - 2020
    Carrera Virtuoso - 2015
    ex Focus Cayo Ultegra Di2 - 2016
    ex Giant Defy 1 - 2015
  • tangled_metaltangled_metal Posts: 3,996
    My turbo skewer is an old fashioned, clunky internal cam skewer. Like my nearly 30 year old shimano ones on my old steel road bike. Those never came undone but the skewers that came with my bike did regularly. The last time cost me best part of £200 to put right.

    Take a look at the skewer. Is it internal cam? Does it lock and clamp the wheel securely? Does it open easy? If you think it's good and it's internal cam then chances are it's good.

    BTW my hierarchy concerning skewers is internal cam, external cam with brass washer or don't ride the bike. My "came with the bike" skewers were external cam with plastic washer. Lasted a year and half then let my rear wheel go flying out the back. I had warnings for probably a year. My front qr kept coming loose but i noticed it before setting off countless times. The one time i didn't spot rate front qr was loose i was saved by the lawyer lips on the fork.

    Seriously check your qr as often as you check your brakes and gears if not more frequent. Plus get good after market ones preferably internal cams. Quality and design over weight (= internal cams)
  • Thanks Tangled Metal, wise advice.
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    Ridley Fenix SL Ultegra Di2 - 2020
    Carrera Virtuoso - 2015
    ex Focus Cayo Ultegra Di2 - 2016
    ex Giant Defy 1 - 2015
  • tangled_metaltangled_metal Posts: 3,996
    Thanks Tangled Metal, wise advice.
    Copy and paste from others! :D

    Seriously, there's a Sheldon Brown page on the issues with skewers. Worth a look.
  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    We should really start a comedy thread titled "Someone in my local bike shop said..."
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,571
    DavidJB wrote:
    We should really start a comedy thread titled "Someone in my local bike shop said..."


    Would take over the whole forum that would.

    We could tie it into "patronising words of patronisation from clubbies" and dominate the world.........
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • On a hilly ride, that included some PBs on the descents. I had a squeak coming from the bike everytime I put my left foot down. Post ride, it turned out to be the front skewer was loose :shock:

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  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    Riding with a pal of mine made us stop at the bottom of a 3 mile descent - "Something's not right here"

    He lifted up the bike and the front wheel dropped out. His skewer wasn't loose - it was undone completely.

    No idea how that could have happened and we were 50 miles into an 80 mile ride too. Any bunny hop would have been nasty.
  • [email protected] and Fenix the skewers in question were they turbo skewers or skewers meant for the road?
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    Carrera Virtuoso - 2015
    ex Focus Cayo Ultegra Di2 - 2016
    ex Giant Defy 1 - 2015
  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    SR - this was a proper skewer - back in the day before Lawyers Lips and turbo skewers had been invented.

    Either he'd set off like that or someone had undone it at a cafe stop. I can't see how it would have worked itself from closed to open.
  • BobbinogsBobbinogs Posts: 4,928
    ...
    Seriously check your qr as often as you check your brakes and gears if not more frequent. Plus get good after market ones preferably internal cams. Quality and design over weight (= internal cams)

    Not bad advice. On a clubrun last year we had a group go over some minor speed bumps, no big deal and many chose to bunnyhop...only one poor fella had his front wheel drop out due to a loose QR (probably due to not being tightened correctly). Ambulance job, I'm afraid :-(
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,571
    Bobbinogs wrote:
    ...
    Seriously check your qr as often as you check your brakes and gears if not more frequent. Plus get good after market ones preferably internal cams. Quality and design over weight (= internal cams)

    Not bad advice. On a clubrun last year we had a group go over some minor speed bumps, no big deal and many chose to bunnyhop...only one poor fella had his front wheel drop out due to a loose QR (probably due to not being tightened correctly). Ambulance job, I'm afraid :-(


    Clubbies, eh .......
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • ryan_w-2ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,160
    Just buy these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-profes ... kewer-set/

    Super light (42g), strong and stealthy. All for £12!
    '17 Focus Mares Force 1 --- '19 Cervélo S5 Disc Di2

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  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,571
    Ryan_W wrote:
    Just buy these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-profes ... kewer-set/

    Super light (42g), strong and stealthy. All for £12!


    Look the same as the Planet X ones everyone uses with no problems.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • ryan_w-2ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,160
    Ryan_W wrote:
    Just buy these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-profes ... kewer-set/

    Super light (42g), strong and stealthy. All for £12!


    Look the same as the Planet X ones everyone uses with no problems.

    I found them after dropping £100 on some 33g Tune skewers... :roll: :evil:

    Really are the best VFM x weight skewer set out there.
    '17 Focus Mares Force 1 --- '19 Cervélo S5 Disc Di2

    IG: RhinosWorkshop - Check it out for all my custom builds...
  • Internal cam are better - either Shimano or older Campag work well.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,571
    Ryan_W wrote:
    Ryan_W wrote:
    Just buy these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-profes ... kewer-set/

    Super light (42g), strong and stealthy. All for £12!


    Look the same as the Planet X ones everyone uses with no problems.

    I found them after dropping £100 on some 33g Tune skewers... :roll: :evil:

    Really are the best VFM x weight skewer set out there.

    Noooooo! Quel domage! £100........
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
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