Magnesium wheels.. Gimmick or quality?

snakey_75
snakey_75 Posts: 33
edited March 2017 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi guys, as the title suggests, magnesium wheels for mtb, are they a gimmick or is it a good idea? My mtb is mainly uses for commuting to work and back with the odd trail, nothing heavy duty. Reading write-ups, they are supposed to be stronger and lighter than ally and carbon, is this true? Found some real nice pairs for around the £120 mark on an auction website, can these be good quality or not? Cheers for any info!!

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  • JGTR
    JGTR Posts: 1,404
    Considering the price I very much doubt they are any good at all. In addition there must be a reason that no decent manufacturer uses magnesium wheels.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Nasty heavy gimmicks.

    Like these:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-of-26-26 ... u1q_iU9Cwg

    3kg+ for wheels, might as well use lead.

    As used on nasty Chinese BSOs.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-of-26-26 ... u1q_iU9Cwg

    You have to laugh though. That one has a "Dental plate: 3 Location tooth plate 24 * 34 * 42 × 170L"

    And a "Flywheel: 7 Location flywheel"
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  • rockmonkeysc
    rockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    Magnesium alloy is cheaper than the aluminium alloys used in proper quality wheels and it's very soft.
  • vanamees
    vanamees Posts: 75
    Magnesium alloy is cheaper than the aluminium alloys used in proper quality wheels and it's very soft.
    Exactly the opposite. Airplanes are mostly built of this "cheap and soft" alloy, high end bike frames. most suspension forks, aso...
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Whatever, those wheels are still cr4p.
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  • philcubed
    philcubed Posts: 260
    Don't go for a ride when it's raining or you'll be riding a couple of Catherine wheels! https://youtu.be/YKN2-B5kblw
    :D
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    vanamees wrote:
    Magnesium alloy is cheaper than the aluminium alloys used in proper quality wheels and it's very soft.
    Exactly the opposite. Airplanes are mostly built of this "cheap and soft" alloy, high end bike frames. most suspension forks, aso...
    Erm no, RMSC is making the point that the cheap magnesium alloys used in these cast wheels will be cheaper than the expensive aluminium alloys used in decent extruded rims from the likes of Stans, Mavic etc which is much harder and knock resistant. You can't compare a casting to a formed product.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • snakey_75
    snakey_75 Posts: 33
    Cheers guys, that answers that then... I'm ashamed to say I liked these --

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272511587285? ... EBIDX%3AIT

    I know it's a cheap cassette but that is easily replaced..
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I have wheels sets that weigh less than one of those. Including fat DH wheels.

    Just nasty.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    My current wheelset weighs only a little more than that front, my old set are lighter than the rear and I had a set of Deemax DH wheels that was just on 2Kg the pair. Even stock Carrera wheels are only just over 2Kg.

    Like the looks of you want but accept they are crap for their job!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • mattyfez
    mattyfez Posts: 638
    Interesting, magnisium alloy has been popular in rally car wheels for strength and light weight, but the term magnisium alloy by itself does not mean much.

    How much magnisium, how much 'other' random metals are in the mix.

    They must be magnisium alloy as if they were pure magnisium they would be very soft and they'd catch fire when they got wet.

    The term 'alloy' simply means a mixture of two or more metals.
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The problem is that the massively thick 'spokes' and rim are so much thicker than with conventional wheels they weigh more despite being mag' alloy not steel spokes.

    Had a set of Group2 magnesium alloys on my old Escort.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.