Campag Over Torque chainsets ?
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Seen the above on offer , fancied a chorus ultra torque to go on a press fit BB30 frame , however after reading campags site the Over Torque system seems like it may do the job. Has anyone used this system , looks relatively new , 2014 onwards
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Bought one from Merlin £185 for the comp ultra 11 speed . Seems like the best design for press fit BB30 . I hope my bike shop can fit it . I am likely to wreck anything more technical than tyre fitting as my tools consist of sledge hammers and hack saws.
Probably hunt for the remaining groupset components off e.bay. Chorus hopefully.0 -
How did you get on with this? I've been eying up one of these chainsets as they are cheap as chips and at least equivalent to Super Record.0
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No problems over 500 miles. Looks the part and no squeaks from PF BB30 bottom bracket.
Doesnt match my remaining Potenza groupset but that's ok for me.
looks and works like my pre 2015 super record , as I assume its basically the same , except for the single axel bit.0 -
I'm a bit confused, what exactly is the differance between one of these and the Campag SR 5 arm crank?0
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Shortfall wrote:
It dispenses with the 2 piece hirth jointed spindle and wavy washers and replaces them with a single spindle with a preload adjustment collar.dstev55 wrote:I'm a bit confused, what exactly is the differance between one of these and the Campag SR 5 arm crank?
And translated for non-technically minded people that means what? :P0 -
The Chorus, Record and SR cranksets comprise of 2 crank arms each with a stub axle. The axles are joined together in the centre of the bottom bracket by means of a hirth joint which essentially means that the end of each axle has teeth that are held together with a bolt. The system is incredibly easy to install and remove but has it's critics as failure to properly face the bottom bracket shell can lead to knocking and so on. The overtorque system uses a more traditional single spindle but unlike their dreadful powertorque it has a collar to adjust the bearing preload and by all accounts is very easy to work on. Can't speak from personal experience though.0
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https://youtu.be/fAHd2amwskU
https://youtu.be/1Xc36RywVFo
The above give a demonstration of the different systems.0 -
Shortfall wrote:
https://youtu.be/fAHd2amwskU
https://youtu.be/1Xc36RywVFo
The above give a demonstration of the different systems.
hmmm, just watched the Over Torque one out of interest, and I'm mighty pleased that I've got Ultra Torque on my bikes.0 -
I wouldn't get one. Campag have already given up on Over Torque
Typically with Campag you need to buy the special Over Torque tool to install/remove. Which is now hard to find
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/campagnolo-ut-fc220-over-torque-crankset-tool/0 -
Well despite the warnings, I've just bought an over torque chainset for my Bianchi. I'm sure it could turn out to be a "told you so" moment but I spoke my LBS who said they wouldn't have a problem fitting it (they are a Bianchi dealer and Campag specialists). I've just paid £185 brand new, so for me it is worth giving it a try against the extortionate price of a Super Record chainset.0
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dstev55 wrote:Well despite the warnings, I've just bought an over torque chainset for my Bianchi. I'm sure it could turn out to be a "told you so" moment but I spoke my LBS who said they wouldn't have a problem fitting it (they are a Bianchi dealer and Campag specialists). I've just paid £185 brand new, so for me it is worth giving it a try against the extortionate price of a Super Record chainset.
LBS to fit a chainset?
I take my Ultra Torque chainset off on a fairly regular basis: mainly for cleaning and lubing, especially in winter, but also for changing chainring ratios, replacing bearings (easy to do) and swapping between bikes.
There's no way I'd want to go to a bike shop every time I want remove / fit them.0 -
joe2008 wrote:dstev55 wrote:Well despite the warnings, I've just bought an over torque chainset for my Bianchi. I'm sure it could turn out to be a "told you so" moment but I spoke my LBS who said they wouldn't have a problem fitting it (they are a Bianchi dealer and Campag specialists). I've just paid £185 brand new, so for me it is worth giving it a try against the extortionate price of a Super Record chainset.
LBS to fit a chainset?
I take my Ultra Torque chainset off on a fairly regular basis: mainly for cleaning and lubing, especially in winter, but also for changing chainring ratios, replacing bearings (easy to do) and swapping between bikes.
There's no way I'd want to go to a bike shop every time I want remove / fit them.
We're not all as mechanically minded as you Joe....
My LBS has already said I'll need a new BB as I'm currently on Rotor and seeing as I'm getting a bit of creaking that's not a bad thing.
There is no way I'm mucking around with the BB of my new Bianchi, I just don't have the knowledge or experience. And by the sounds of it, I don't have the tools for the Over Torque chainset either.
And also when you say "everytime it wants removing", I really don't plan on having my chainset removed for at least a couple of years once fitted.
And to add it's EPS and I'm new to Campag so not confident with that either!0 -
dstev55 wrote:joe2008 wrote:dstev55 wrote:Well despite the warnings, I've just bought an over torque chainset for my Bianchi. I'm sure it could turn out to be a "told you so" moment but I spoke my LBS who said they wouldn't have a problem fitting it (they are a Bianchi dealer and Campag specialists). I've just paid £185 brand new, so for me it is worth giving it a try against the extortionate price of a Super Record chainset.
LBS to fit a chainset?
I take my Ultra Torque chainset off on a fairly regular basis: mainly for cleaning and lubing, especially in winter, but also for changing chainring ratios, replacing bearings (easy to do) and swapping between bikes.
There's no way I'd want to go to a bike shop every time I want remove / fit them.
We're not all as mechanically minded as you Joe....
My LBS has already said I'll need a new BB as I'm currently on Rotor and seeing as I'm getting a bit of creaking that's not a bad thing.
There is no way I'm mucking around with the BB of my new Bianchi, I just don't have the knowledge or experience. And by the sounds of it, I don't have the tools for the Over Torque chainset either.
And also when you say "everytime it wants removing", I really don't plan on having my chainset removed for at least a couple of years once fitted.
And to add it's EPS and I'm new to Campag so not confident with that either!
Ultra Torque is a breeze to remove and re-fit - I take mine off once a week in the winter to clean. The beauty of having no bottom bracket I guess.
Your bearings will most likely need replacing before a couple of years are through.0 -
Do bearings usually need replacing within 2 years? Didn't realise they needed changing this often.0
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joe2008 wrote:dstev55 wrote:Do bearings usually need replacing within 2 years? Didn't realise they needed changing this often.
Depends how much you ride.
I usually have to change mine every 6 - 8 months. Also, ceramic ones tend to do better than steel ones, particularly in winter.
Well my Bianchi will only be ridden April - October generally speaking and probably about 2500-3000 miles, can't see them needing be changed more than every 2 years max.0 -
dstev55 wrote:joe2008 wrote:dstev55 wrote:Do bearings usually need replacing within 2 years? Didn't realise they needed changing this often.
Depends how much you ride.
I usually have to change mine every 6 - 8 months. Also, ceramic ones tend to do better than steel ones, particularly in winter.
Well my Bianchi will only be ridden April - October generally speaking and probably about 2500-3000 miles, can't see them needing be changed more than every 2 years max.
In that case I agree with you.0 -
I've. Had ultra torque on a bike for 8 years and never touched it ,probably done 20,000 miles on it. Winter , summer , racing etc.
If I took it off I would probably wreck everything. , I'm strictly a big hammer merchant.0 -
Right, to say I'm a little pissed off at the moment is an understatement.
I had my Over Torque crankset fitted a few weeks back. The mechanic said he thought the bottom bracket (Rotor) was fine so left it alone. The first few rides were fine and it was quiet. Then all of a sudden it started creaking very loudly when I went out last Thursday and it is horrendous when I'm out of the saddle.
Took it back to the shop and told the mechanic to fit a new bottom bracket along with a couple of other bits. Got it back today, didn't look at it in detail until I got back and when I did I could see it still had the Rotor bottom bracket.... So I called the shop and he asked the mechanic who said he put new bearings in it. Now I'm not being funny, but I've asked twice now for a new bottom bracket to be put in and on both occasions it has come back to me without one. What is the issue???
Went out on it a short while ago and the creaking is as horrendous as it was before I took it in. To top it off I HATE my new handlebars I've had fitted, my new brakes sound like someone dragging their nails down a chalkboard and I'm convinced the mechanic lowered my saddle even though there was no work to be done on it. All this and I've got Velothon in less than 2 weeks.
NOT HAPPY!0 -
So your issue is with the shop, not Overtorque? I'm a little confused, but that's normal for me.
Anyhow, see you on the Velothon, I'll listen out for your creaking bike - you listen out for my creaking knees.0 -
Never heard of the over torque.
As an aside, i've had both Ultra Torque and Power torque. Currently, I have UT on both bikes and like Joe, it regularly gets removed for cleaning. Once you got the hang of it, it's easy.
I just wonder if fitting a Praxis BB would solve the OP's problem. I've heard good things about them. It offers a solution to threadless BB's.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Just ordered the Campag Over Torque BB cups with ceramic bearings. If they don't stop the creaking I'm not sure what will!0
