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Enve SES 3.4 vs Fulcrum Racing Quattro Carbon

bikingjohnbikingjohn Posts: 202
edited March 2017 in Road buying advice
The Enve is twice the price of the Fulcrum with below advantages. Which would you buy?

-tubeless
-wider rims
-lighter (maybe negligible)
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  • BobbinogsBobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    You forgot the main reason:

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  • bikingjohn wrote:
    The Enve is twice the price of the Fulcrum with below advantages. Which would you buy?

    -tubeless
    -wider rims
    -lighter (maybe negligible)
    Whichever set you can afford/justify.
  • FlâneurFlâneur Posts: 3,081
    I imagine you want the Enve wheels given you are comparing them both, so if you can afford it buy what you want
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  • It seems a silly comparison. As you note, the Enve's are twice as expensive as the Fulcrums and are better wheels. You've not mentioned budget, use or anything like that so pretty much all anyone can say is that you should buy the Enve's.
  • CalpolCalpol Posts: 1,039
    FWIW I have the Fulcrum wheels. I think they represent good value. From what I evaluated they offer much of the technology included in the flagship Bora wheels made by Campagnolo (Fulcrum) ie the diamante braking surface, wide rim width (24.2mm) and at a very respectable weight. c1500g from what I remember when I weighed mine. They perform well for me but they are a compromise wheel as they don't really excel at anything - not deep enough to derive significant aero dynamic benefit and not light enough to be considered optimised for climbing. However that is what I wanted - a do it all set that gave the aesthetic of carbon wheels, the reassurance of a quality product from a major oem and perhaps some resale value for when I succumb to the next "snake oil" marketing thing.

    I rode them on a long, undulating, damp and windy ride on Sunday and they performed really well. I think the braking is not noticeably different from alloy rims and I was barely troubled by any cross winds.

    That said, my buddies Reynolds Aero 58 are definitely more of an aero benefit and therefore faster with seemingly little weight or stability penalty. They are however (even when discounted) c£4-500 more expensive. For the money I see no better alternative in the market place
  • bikingjohnbikingjohn Posts: 202
    So do you see the 3.4 justify the price?
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  • matt_n-2matt_n-2 Posts: 581
    The 3.4 are the perfect everyday wheel, well according to the advert in this month's cyclist magazine!
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  • helingenhelingen Posts: 25
    On quattros since yesterday, 1455g on scale.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBjwqwGHd2o

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  • My Enve's are 400g lighter than those.

    If you want light wheels, get light wheels. 1455g is not light.
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  • bikingjohnbikingjohn Posts: 202
    helingen wrote:
    On quattros since yesterday, 1455g on scale.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBjwqwGHd2o

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    Hi helingen, the wheels look great! any more close up shots at the rim bed? Does it look like a proper tubeless design?
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  • matt_n-2matt_n-2 Posts: 581
    My Enve's are 400g lighter than those.

    If you want light wheels, get light wheels. 1455g is not light.

    Yours are tubular though presumably and something like the 2.2?

    The weight for those Fulcum's is actually bang on what Enve list for the 3.4 clincher:

    DT 240 1492g
    King R45 1477g
    ENVE Carbon 1392g
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 26,773
    Matt_N wrote:
    The 3.4 are the perfect everyday wheel, well according to the advert in this month's cyclist magazine!

    For those who don't live in a country with shite weather and thirld world roads they probably are... If I lived in the Cote d'Azur, Cataluna, Dolomites, Annecy or almost anywhere else nice I'd probably get a pair :wink:
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