Security lock for the house

aidso

I'm trying to find a large cable lock for securing several bikes at home but not sure what is available. Do you think this is the best means for locking a bike/bikes, or should they be individually secured to the wall?
Don't really want a heavy iron/steel setup in case it chips them...

FishFish

People will advise you that security in any form is still fallible and if they want it then they will get it.

I have a sold secure gold standard lock and chain the latter being a motorbike chain and this is connected to a ring embedded in concrete. It is as secure as it gets and the chain is covered by a nylon sheath and so does not damage the paintwork.

My insurance demands sold secure gold standard so it would be invalid if I did not have it.

Ross Gardner

Got any suggestions for portable locks? Preferably one that fits in/on a 15L. hydration pack. If there isn't a good one that fits, maybe I need to get a 30L. pack. Is the Abus Granit X-Plus 54 300 lock the best for my preferences?

I currently have a titanium lock in the garage, but nothing suitable.

aidso

These floor anchors look the ticket - I guess the tricky installation is testament to how difficult it will be to break/remove.

rockmonkeysc

When I'm out at trail centres I just use a dirt cheap Knog cable lock. It coils up real small and just needs to be slightly more secure than the dozens of unsecured bikes outside the centre cafe.

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

When I'm out at trail centres I just use a dirt cheap Knog cable lock. It coils up real small and just needs to be slightly more secure than the dozens of unsecured bikes outside the centre cafe.

+1 to that. All those multi-thousand pound bikes just propped up while their owners turn their backs to order their burgers. Scum must have figured out the rich pickings by now.

rockmonkeysc

It must be so easy for thieves to just wander along and ride off on an unattended bike and no one will question what they're doing.
It's not difficult to just put a little cable lock on the bike. If they have to break a lock it suddenly becomes too obvious to other people what the thief is doing.

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

It must be so easy for thieves to just wander along and ride off on an unattended bike and no one will question what they're doing.
It's not difficult to just put a little cable lock on the bike. If they have to break a lock it suddenly becomes too obvious to other people what the thief is doing.

That occurred to me when I was at Llandegla last year. The area outside the cafe with the picnic tables and bike stands; it was absolutely packed the day I was there, every table full, every bike rack full, must have been hundreds of bikes there. It would have been dead easy for someone to sit at a table and watch people leaving their bikes to go into the cafe to order (fantastic food, by the way). And, as you say, no-one would have thought anything of it if they'd have waltzed off with a few bikes. Llandegla is almost set up for thieves - once you're in the cafe you can't really see what's going on outside. At least in BPW you've got a big view of the picnic area and bike racks from inside the cafe and the picnic area itself is a little less conducive to walking off with a bike. I've been using a lightweight cable ever since.

LimitedGarry

In my opinion (as far as portable locks go) a folding lock has the best balance of weight, portability, practicality and security. D-Locks can't be used everywhere because of their shape, anything heavier than 1kg is just ridiculous to carry around (unless commuting in a big city). Folding lock's joints are the weakness and can usually be broken by appropriate tools and skills in under a minute, while making a whole lot of noise. To a mere mortal, it is impenetrable.
And as other have said, when you're only interested in ordering food and drink in a public place, a simple cable lock is sufficient for the purpose.

Plodder82

Not gonna be cheap whatever you buy certainly for several bikes,but motorcycle's have a whole industry geared towards security chains/cables/d-locks (sleeved so minimal scratches,or pipe insulation around the frame).Motorbike retailers are your best and cheapest bet.
As said, nothing is theft proof,it's a deterrent only,there's lots of advice on m/c forums.

Ross Gardner

I got a Abus U-Mini 401 Bike Lock. Small enough and light enough for the pack. I might get a folding, but they start at 1.6 kg for a good one. The Abus U-Mini 401 Bike Lock is 1.1 ish kg.

Wooderson

Cable style locks are pretty useless in my experience, as they can be quietly cut with croppers. Decent hardened chains on the other hand will normally need to be ground off. If you're in the house, or near shed in question, you at least have chance of hearing the thieves in action and intervening.

Trying not to damage frames is tricky with chains as they are awkward to thread through gaps. My Huge Almax 16mm chain does clunk against my frames, but it is properly tough so I accept that as part of the trade-off. The chain locks with a nylon sleeve (Abus etc) are slightly better for securing multiple bikes and limit cosmetic damage scatching the frames.

LimitedGarry

Wooderson wrote:

Cable style locks are pretty useless in my experience, as they can be quietly cut with croppers. Decent hardened chains on the other hand will normally need to be ground off. If you're in the house, or near shed in question, you at least have chance of hearing the thieves in action and intervening.

Trying not to damage frames is tricky with chains as they are awkward to thread through gaps. My Huge Almax 16mm chain does clunk against my frames, but it is properly tough so I accept that as part of the trade-off. The chain locks with a nylon sleeve (Abus etc) are slightly better for securing multiple bikes and limit cosmetic damage scatching the frames.

The debate was revolving around the situation where you leave your bike in front of a bar or cafe where a lot of cyclists leave their bike completely without a lock.

Angus Young

LimitedGarry wrote:

Wooderson wrote:

Cable style locks are pretty useless in my experience, as they can be quietly cut with croppers. Decent hardened chains on the other hand will normally need to be ground off. If you're in the house, or near shed in question, you at least have chance of hearing the thieves in action and intervening.

Trying not to damage frames is tricky with chains as they are awkward to thread through gaps. My Huge Almax 16mm chain does clunk against my frames, but it is properly tough so I accept that as part of the trade-off. The chain locks with a nylon sleeve (Abus etc) are slightly better for securing multiple bikes and limit cosmetic damage scatching the frames.

The debate was revolving around the situation where you leave your bike in front of a bar or cafe where a lot of cyclists leave their bike completely without a lock.

But the original question was about security at home, so his answer is on point.

LimitedGarry

Angus Young wrote:

LimitedGarry wrote:

Wooderson wrote:

Cable style locks are pretty useless in my experience, as they can be quietly cut with croppers. Decent hardened chains on the other hand will normally need to be ground off. If you're in the house, or near shed in question, you at least have chance of hearing the thieves in action and intervening.

Trying not to damage frames is tricky with chains as they are awkward to thread through gaps. My Huge Almax 16mm chain does clunk against my frames, but it is properly tough so I accept that as part of the trade-off. The chain locks with a nylon sleeve (Abus etc) are slightly better for securing multiple bikes and limit cosmetic damage scatching the frames.

The debate was revolving around the situation where you leave your bike in front of a bar or cafe where a lot of cyclists leave their bike completely without a lock.

But the original question was about security at home, so his answer is on point.

I know what the OP is. I'm just saying that small cable lock was not suggested as a viable option for bike security in a city.