SKS Longboard Mudguards

bungle73

Just bought a pair of these from Chain Reaction to put on my road bike. Went to install the front guard and it won't fit between the fork legs! And this is on a bike with clearance for up to 32c tyres!

daniel_b

Bungle73 wrote:

Just bought a pair of these from Chain Reaction to put on my road bike. Went to install the front guard and it won't fit between the fork legs! And this is on a bike with clearance for up to 32c tyres!

Dremel?

sheffsimon

Bungle73 wrote:

Just bought a pair of these from Chain Reaction to put on my road bike. Went to install the front guard and it won't fit between the fork legs! And this is on a bike with clearance for up to 32c tyres!

You know they come in different widths? Presume yours are the 45mm version, you can get a 35mm wide version too.

bungle73

Daniel B wrote:

Bungle73 wrote:

Just bought a pair of these from Chain Reaction to put on my road bike. Went to install the front guard and it won't fit between the fork legs! And this is on a bike with clearance for up to 32c tyres!

Dremel?

I don't have one.

SheffSimon wrote:

Bungle73 wrote:

Just bought a pair of these from Chain Reaction to put on my road bike. Went to install the front guard and it won't fit between the fork legs! And this is on a bike with clearance for up to 32c tyres!

You know they come in different widths? Presume yours are the 45mm version, you can get a 35mm wide version too.

I only found that out once I'd got them and read the info on the card that comes with them. CR only had the ones I bought listed. All I wanted was some basic, easy to fit, and reasobly priced, mudguards to keep the crap off me and my bike during the winter. I looked at quite a few and these seemed like they might do, and they were a good price.

I guess I'm going to have to send them back, but I've already removed them from the board that they were attached to in preparation for fitting them.

I didn't realise that doing something that should be simple, like buying a set of mudgards for a road bile, would be so much hassle. Last time I needed a set of mudguards (for a cheap MTB) all I needed to do was pop along to Halfords and pick up the ones that fitted my wheel size.....

Bobbinogs

So basically you bought the wrong size of mudguards and they don't fit. Am I missing anything else?

bungle73

Bobbinogs wrote:

So basically you bought the wrong size of mudguards and they don't fit. Am I missing anything else?

And I was supposed to know this how? Considering that were the ONLY ones available.

bungle73

I still don't understand why they won't fit when they are for my wheel size and I have mega tyre clearance on my frame.

Bobbinogs

Bungle73 wrote:

Bobbinogs wrote:

So basically you bought the wrong size of mudguards and they don't fit. Am I missing anything else?

And I was supposed to know this how? Considering that were the ONLY ones available.

Well, a cursory check of the CR website shows this listed:

Features:
Section: 45mm
Rim: 28''
Fastening: Secu Clip

Then, about the 3rd question on the extensive list of Q&As shows:

Q: I bought these mudguards but they are too wide to fit my bike. Do you sell the 35mm width version so that I can swap them?

A: We do not stock the 35mm mudguards.

bungle73

Bobbinogs wrote:

Bungle73 wrote:

Bobbinogs wrote:

So basically you bought the wrong size of mudguards and they don't fit. Am I missing anything else?

And I was supposed to know this how? Considering that were the ONLY ones available.

Well, a cursory check of the CR website shows this listed:

Features:
Section: 45mm
Rim: 28''
Fastening: Secu Clip

Then, about the 3rd question on the extensive list of Q&As shows:

Q: I bought these mudguards but they are too wide to fit my bike. Do you sell the 35mm width version so that I can swap them?

A: We do not stock the 35mm mudguards.

Err....where? The 3rd questions is:

Will these fit my cube peleton race 2014

I can't even see the one you mentioned.

Silly me. Fancy expecting a set of road bike mudguards to fit a road bike. What was I thinking.......

Bobbinogs

OK, I did state "a cursory check". Having spent another 30 seconds checking, turns out it was the 5th question and not the 3rd :roll:

I then invested a further 5 seconds to check the answer to question 9:

Q: Will it fit wheel 700x40?

A: These guards have a width of 45mm, 40mm tyre will be ok to use.

Just accept you bought the wrong product because you did not spend enough time looking at either the product page on CR which has an excellent Q&A section or by using Google which would have thrown up a lot of responses about there being 2 sizes. Move on from it.

bungle73

Bobbinogs wrote:

OK, I did state "a cursory check". Having spent another 30 seconds checking, turns out it was the 5th question and not the 3rd :roll:

Err no it's not. The question you quoted DOES NOT EXIST! :roll:

I then invested a further 5 seconds to check the answer to question 9:

Q: Will it fit wheel 700x40?

A: These guards have a width of 45mm, 40mm tyre will be ok to use.

And that is relevant to me how?

Just accept you bought the wrong product because you did not spend enough time looking at either the product page on CR which has an excellent Q&A section or by using Google which would have thrown up a lot of responses about there being 2 sizes. Move on from it.

Are you for real? Why the hell would I expect to have start Googling stuff when all I wanted was to buy a set of bog standard road bike mudguards??

And I DID look. The info stated that they were for my wheel size. How the f was I supposed to know that road bike guards don't fit all road bikes???

Here is every single question for that product:

Is it compatible for Cube Attain SL Disc 2016 with 700*28 Tyres?
1 answer Will these fit giant defy 0 2015
1 answer Will these fit my cube peleton race 2014
1 answer Ribble R872
1 answer 35mm version?
1 answer Color - matt or gloss?
1 answer Will these fit my KTM Canic CXA? Rocket Ron 33mm tires
1 answer Will these fit a Cannondale Synapse 105 Alloy - any other options?
1 answer Will it fit wheel 700x40?
1 answer Will these fit a Charge Grater 3?

Will these fit a Fuji Roubaix?
2 answers Mudguards
1 answer Will these mudguards fit my Focus Culebro SL2?
1 answer Sizing
1 answer Will these 'guards fit my Specialized Tricross disc?
1 answer Will these fit on my 27 x 1 1/4" tires?
1 answer Will these fit a Vtus Zenium vr?
1 answer Round profile or not?
1 answer Please can you tell me if these will fit a Boardman Road Team Carbon? If not what else can you suggest for the best fit?
1 answer will these fit a Giant DEFY
1 answer Will these fit a cannondale quick cx5 with 700 x35 tyres ?
1 answer Will these fit Specialized Allez with 28mm Gatorskins ?
1 answer Will the 28" size be suitable for 23mm 700c road tyres?
1 answer compatability
1 answer Will these fit a 2014 Lynskey Cooper CX frame with Disc Brakes?
1 answer Will these fit a Cannondale Synapse ultegra disc 2014?
1 answer Any suggestions as to the most effective and aesthetic looking fender for committing on rainy days on roads with a bitumen surface that accommodates t
1 answer Do these fit an Apollo Trace 45 with disc brakes?
1 answer Are these mudguards a good choice for a 2013 Devinci Oslo with 700x28C tires?
2 answers What is the maximum wheel width that you can use with these?

So where is "Q: I bought these mudguards but they are too wide to fit my bike. Do you sell the 35mm width version so that I can swap them"? It's not there. You're obviously looking at something else.

In any case, since, as I've already mention several times, even if it was there why would I have cause to have doubt they would fit when my bike has far more than the usual road bike clearance?

Ber Nard

Without knowing what bike you have I can only guess, but I imagine the stated clearance of 32mm is the max tyre size without guards. It'll be significantly reduced with guards. Does the manufacturer state that size? I'd expect the SKS P35 to fit but limit you to maybe 28mm tyres.

Oh, and they're not exactly easy to fit anyway. Brilliant once set up right but it's a bit of a faff.

bungle73

Ber Nard wrote:

Without knowing what bike you have I can only guess, but I imagine the stated clearance of 32mm is the max tyre size without guards. It'll be significantly reduced with guards. Does the manufacturer state that size? I'd expect the SKS P35 to fit but limit you to maybe 28mm tyres.

Oh, and they're not exactly easy to fit anyway. Brilliant once set up right but it's a bit of a faff.

It's a Mango Point R, and the 32c clearance is without guards - it is 28c with guards (that is what is stated on their website). The tyres I have on atm are 28c. However, that isn't the issue. I didn't even have the wheel on when It tried it out. The guard just won't physically fit between the fork legs far enough up, even with no wheel, because it is too wide.

Thanks, I'll check out the ones you mentioned out. But tbh I'm not sure if I can be bothered now, since something I thought would be simple is turning out to be so complicated. It already took me a while to narrow my choice down to the ones that I did buy, since others had issues or problems that put me off or that I didn't want to live with. Luckily my bike has mounts so I had a greater choice than usual.

Bobbinogs

Bungle73 wrote:

...
So where is "Q: I bought these mudguards but they are too wide to fit my bike. Do you sell the 35mm width version so that I can swap them"? It's not there. You're obviously looking at something else.
...

OK Bungle, I can see how you are having a problem looking at the website so here is some help. I wrote that I took my simple cut and paste from Q5. The 5th question in the list is:

35mm version?

Under that headline question is this further query:

Q: I bought these mudguards but they are too wide to fit my bike. Do you sell the 35mm width version so that I can swap them?

A: We do not stock the 35mm mudguards.

So, yes I am for real, as is the text I quoted. The problem is that you seem to have started with the assumption that all road bikes are equal and then went on to make an assumption that all tyres and wheels are equal too...and that therefore all mudguards would also be the same. In reality, there is a big difference in the clearance of some bikes and a huge variance (relatively) in tyres. Hence, mudguards will come in a variety of sizes and models, some models work, some sizes work but not all sizes and all models work for all bike/tyre combos.

btw, Q9 is relevant because it clearly shows that the mudguard has a width of 45mm. If I was looking for a mudguard and read that I would have checked my forks to see if a 45mm mudguard would fit.

bungle73

So. Not only do you expect me to go on some sort of quest through Google every time I make a purchase, you also expect me to trawl through every single question that's been asked about the product that I'm considering, no matter how little relevance it appears to have to me. I see.

And why wouldn't I have assumed they would fit when the available room is unusually large for a road bike. How many road bikes offer more space?

mac9091

OOOH, can't resist.

OP you bought something without checking that it would fit? So being that you state that the clearance on your forks is 32mm, i'm going to guess that you clearly have some knowledge in what to look for. The fact that you know there is a "clearance" shows that you are aware of a reason for this being a factor in cycling.

No point getting arsey with other who are pointing out that with a small bit of effort, you could have saved yourself this hassle.

Why not nip down to the LBS and try them in there.

bungle73

I've packed them up and initiated the returns procedure. I don't know if I can be bothered with it anymore. What I thought would be simple has turned out to be too much of a minefield. And looking at the rear wheel of my bike there doesn't seem to be much space at the top, so I've no idea if any will fit.....even though the bike website indicated that they should.

fenix

Bungle by name....


Just take the bike to the LBS and ask them to fit some mudguards for you. Really - buying the right mudguard size is the easy part of fitting mudguards....

bungle73

I haven't got a LBS....unless you count Halfords.....they all closed down.

father_jack

LOL you bought mudguards that wrong size, and blaming everything else.

You have several things to pay attention to when buying mudguards

1) What is the clearence between the dual pivot brakes and tyre?
2) Do you have 47mm drop or 57mm deep drop brakes
3) Do you have disc brakes, if so does the caliper front, rear, or both, get in the way of the rods
4) Does your bike have clearence between tyre and frame/fork
5) What size wheel does you bike have
6) Does your bike have mountings for the mudguards? Fork, brake bridge, and bottom bracket bridge, and near drop out/wheel nut.
7) What width are your tyres, what range size do you use.

father_jack

"and it won't fit between the fork legs"

A simple glance between tyre and fork area would have shown you that before buying

a) The bike
b) The mudguards

I work in a bike shop, a few road bikes do have incredibly tight clearence between tyre and fork. So it's pretty obvious it won't fit.

You will be able to use raceblades, possibly crud road racer. But the latter goes through the fork & near seat tube, if you can get them to fit it'll offer better protection than race blades.

Either way clip on mudguards are crap.

I'd buy another bike, generally road bikes aren't really suited for full length guards. You can buy road bikes where mudguards will fit, but not always. For example I've seen some where gap between tyre and seat tube is small, so no way the guard all the way to the BB will work.

You want something like a "audax" bike or "fast tourer"
ie Ribble Audax.

You could buy a bike with mudguards already fitted, that way you know guards will fit, and the bike is designed from the start guards are compatible.

father_jack

email mango ask them what mudguards will fit?

Looking at that bike, can't see why full length guards wouldn't fit, it does appear to have deep drop brakes, plenty of space between tyre and seat tube, can't see gap between fork and tyre though. but only way would be seeing for myself, need to see gap betwen tyre and fork, gap on rear wheel/frame, if deep drop should be able to put your finger in the gap, needs to have bolt into the BB shell etc.

But if you bought the wide SKS mudguards, then of course it won't fit, you want the narrower ones. That should feed through ok. Just change it with the narrower ones.

CRC are good on returns.

Rigga

Bungle you're gonna be even more peed off when you send them back and the postage is over a tenner, which you don't get refunded.

Ask me how I know lol

bungle73

Rigga wrote:

Bungle you're gonna be even more peed off when you send them back and the postage is over a tenner, which you don't get refunded.

Ask me how I know lol

You know? Returns are free.........

fenix

Can't
Resist
Re-Posting....

pinno

'Fender nuts'.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Problem-Solve ... e7fwJReAgA

Long spiel about adapting SKS long crud catchers:

viewtopic.php?f=40004&t=13000690&hilit=rivets+sks+mudguards#p19251076

No mudguard set up for frames without eyelets is ideal. Some fit okay but they all have their problems.

svetty

Fenix wrote:

Can't
Resist
Re-Posting....

Cruel.............but not entirely unwarranted

svetty

Pinno wrote:

'Fender nuts'.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Problem-Solve ... e7fwJReAgA

Long spiel about adapting SKS long crud catchers:

viewtopic.php?f=40004&t=13000690&hilit=rivets+sks+mudguards#p19251076

No mudguard set up for frames without eyelets is ideal. Some fit okay but they all have their problems.

These wouldn't have helped if the issue was that the mudguards were too wide to fit between the fork legs.

pinno

Svetty wrote:

Pinno wrote:

'Fender nuts'.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Problem-Solve ... e7fwJReAgA

Long spiel about adapting SKS long crud catchers:

viewtopic.php?f=40004&t=13000690&hilit=rivets+sks+mudguards#p19251076

No mudguard set up for frames without eyelets is ideal. Some fit okay but they all have their problems.

These wouldn't have helped if the issue was that the mudguards were too wide to fit between the fork legs.

No you're right but the SKS can be split up 4 sections; before and after the brake mounting point.

mr_mojo

I had a read through the post again for a chuckle. I did get the impression the OP was just trolling though!