Giant Propel Advanced 0 or 1? Please help.

fredroad
fredroad Posts: 29
edited January 2017 in Road general
Hello All,

I'm looking for some help/advice on my bike upgrade and would appreciate any input on my question.

I currently have a Giant Defy 1 (2013) and I'm looking for a more racy bike.

I'm thinking about the giant propel advanced. I can get the advanced 1 (2016) for ca.£1,300 or advanced 0 (2017) for £2,200. The main differences I noticed are ultegra vs Di2 and carbon wheels on advanced 0. Do you think the extra £900 is worth for the upgraded gear and wheels?

Thanks all

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  • Gromson
    Gromson Posts: 100
    fredroad wrote:
    Do you think the extra £900 is worth for the upgraded gear and wheels?

    Yes, yes, yes. YES!
  • fredroad
    fredroad Posts: 29
    Gromson wrote:

    Yes, yes, yes. YES!

    Thanks Gromson. I just needed one positive reply to convince myself!
  • ryan_w-2
    ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,162
    YES!

    You will only go and upgrade the wheels on the 1 if you went for that.

    Di2 is awesome too!
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  • fredroad
    fredroad Posts: 29
    Ryan_W wrote:
    YES!

    You will only go and upgrade the wheels on the 1 if you went for that.

    Di2 is awesome too!

    Yes, I agree. The wheels would be the 1st and easiest upgrade. But I guess the wheels and group set upgrades would cost more than £900

    Thanks.
  • davep1
    davep1 Posts: 837
    The only way you'll ever know is to buy both and ride them at the same time. I have the Advanced 1, and love it. I decided the more expensive bits weren't worth it, almost double the price.
    It has done 12000 km in 18 months and has had a wheel upgrade though...
  • fredroad
    fredroad Posts: 29
    DaveP1 wrote:
    The only way you'll ever know is to buy both and ride them at the same time. I have the Advanced 1, and love it. I decided the more expensive bits weren't worth it, almost double the price.
    It has done 12000 km in 18 months and has had a wheel upgrade though...

    Hi DaveP1. Indeed the price difference is quite high. That's why I'm asking for people's opinion. May I ask which wheels you have upgraded to?

    Thanks.
  • davep1
    davep1 Posts: 837
    I wish I could claim I did loads of research and bought custom built wheels from my local specialist, which was my plan...but the nice man in the Giant shop let me have some half price. DT Swiss hubs, is about all I can tell you!
    I think my original cheap skate decision stands up, because I haven't felt bad about upgrades and looking after it. If you ride a lot, especially in the winter, bits will wear out and need replacing. If your starting price is over 2K, and you need new bits, they're going to cost more and you'll resent it.
    When I bought it, it was a massive improvement over what I had before, but you forget that quantum leap after a couple of weeks. I still love riding it (and genuinely get moody if I haven't been on it for 4 or 5 days!) but I'm happy I stuck to my budget. (Before I bought, I demo'd the 2.5k version, absolutely blew me away, said I would take it, and then overnight, common sense kicked in, and I settled for the one I have)
  • fredroad
    fredroad Posts: 29
    DaveP1 wrote:
    I wish I could claim I did loads of research and bought custom built wheels from my local specialist, which was my plan...but the nice man in the Giant shop let me have some half price. DT Swiss hubs, is about all I can tell you!
    I think my original cheap skate decision stands up, because I haven't felt bad about upgrades and looking after it. If you ride a lot, especially in the winter, bits will wear out and need replacing. If your starting price is over 2K, and you need new bits, they're going to cost more and you'll resent it.
    When I bought it, it was a massive improvement over what I had before, but you forget that quantum leap after a couple of weeks. I still love riding it (and genuinely get moody if I haven't been on it for 4 or 5 days!) but I'm happy I stuck to my budget. (Before I bought, I demo'd the 2.5k version, absolutely blew me away, said I would take it, and then overnight, common sense kicked in, and I settled for the one I have)

    The 1 would be a massive upgrade from my Defy 1, but I really wanted a bike with Di2. I have decided to go for the 0.

    Thanks for your reply.

    Cheers



    Cheers.
  • davep1
    davep1 Posts: 837
    Come back and share your thoughts after you have had it for a month!

    I avoided any demo bikes with Di2 when I was looking, Ultegra was a major step up for me and I didn't want to know about anything better than that! (Although the thought of the battery losing its charge would take me a lot of getting over)
  • fredroad
    fredroad Posts: 29
    DaveP1 wrote:
    Come back and share your thoughts after you have had it for a month!

    I avoided any demo bikes with Di2 when I was looking, Ultegra was a major step up for me and I didn't want to know about anything better than that! (Although the thought of the battery losing its charge would take me a lot of getting over)

    Sure. I have to wait a few weeks to get the bike, but will definitely share my opinion.
  • hsiaolc
    hsiaolc Posts: 492
    DaveP1 wrote:
    Come back and share your thoughts after you have had it for a month!

    I avoided any demo bikes with Di2 when I was looking, Ultegra was a major step up for me and I didn't want to know about anything better than that! (Although the thought of the battery losing its charge would take me a lot of getting over)

    I am sure many can share their DI2 experience. One of the best upgrades. I don't want to ever go back to wires again. No rubs at all and no minor adjustments of FD it does it for you automatically. Shifting is extremely precise and effortless. At first I thought I will have anxiety attack with regards to battery draining but that doesn't even cross my mind at all now. Never an issue.

    Have Di2 for two years now and performed flawlessly and I love mine so much so I have two DI2 systems.
  • davep1
    davep1 Posts: 837
    hsiaolc wrote:
    DaveP1 wrote:
    Come back and share your thoughts after you have had it for a month!

    I avoided any demo bikes with Di2 when I was looking, Ultegra was a major step up for me and I didn't want to know about anything better than that! (Although the thought of the battery losing its charge would take me a lot of getting over)

    I am sure many can share their DI2 experience. One of the best upgrades. I don't want to ever go back to wires again. No rubs at all and no minor adjustments of FD it does it for you automatically. Shifting is extremely precise and effortless. At first I thought I will have anxiety attack with regards to battery draining but that doesn't even cross my mind at all now. Never an issue.

    Have Di2 for two years now and performed flawlessly and I love mine so much so I have two DI2 systems.
    That's great, for you. I've never ridden a bike with Di2, and I don't feel the need, Ultegra is great and more than suitable for me. I think the money can be spent better elsewhere, but that's just my opinion.
  • Dan Walton
    Dan Walton Posts: 147
    I really want to upgrade to Di2 on my Propel just to do away with the awful cable routing!
  • Gromson
    Gromson Posts: 100
    I absolutely love my Di2 Ultegra BMC which came with Zipp 50's part and parcel. But she's a precious flower and I'm out cycling every day all year. From a good family, she's not a dirty girl at all - so she's all tucked up in bed for the winter.

    My 3 year old aluminium 8sp "strings and pulleys" roadbike, on the other hand, likes it a bit filthy and salty round the rim. Her favourite perfumes are Guttersludge and Eau de Gritterlorry. She isnt keen on having a bath and tends to just replace her shinery if it wears out.

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