Which disc brakes?

rob13

I'm building up a Croix de fer, and i'm looking to buy a set of Disc Brakes. My initial thoughts were to buy a set of TRP HYRD at £180 but the TRP Spyres are £120 a set. Are the hydraulic cable pulls £60 better? Should I just get the cheaper ones and wait for the full hydraulic kits to sort themselves out? At the moment the prices are just a bit too steep.

ugo.santalucia

There's also Juin Tech R1 to throw in the mix. Easy to set up and unlike the HyRD you can adjust the lever throw.
140 for the pair

WHichever you go for, budget for compressionless outer cable to get the most out of them

mrb123

You can always go for a HyRd for the front and a Spyre for the rear.

daniel_b

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's also Juin Tech R1 to throw in the mix. Easy to set up and unlike the HyRD you can adjust the lever throw.
140 for the pair

WHichever you go for, budget for compressionless outer cable to get the most out of them

Wasn't there an even cheaper clone of this though in black only?
Sure someone posted it at the tail end of last year.

ugo.santalucia

Daniel B wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

There's also Juin Tech R1 to throw in the mix. Easy to set up and unlike the HyRD you can adjust the lever throw.
140 for the pair

WHichever you go for, budget for compressionless outer cable to get the most out of them

Wasn't there an even cheaper clone of this though in black only?
Sure someone posted it at the tail end of last year.

There is some cheap stuff on ebay from China, which looks very similar, but I am not sure I'd want to take a gamble on my brakes

daniel_b

I hear what you are saying, but there was a thead where someone bought some in green, then someone came back with a 'you could have bought these for less which are identical bar name and colour' reply.
BTR was on the thread I think, and a few other regulars.

arlowood

For the OP's info here is Bendertherobot's review of the Juin Techs

https://roubaixcycling.cc/2016/08/03/ju ... ic-brakes/

Nice to have an opinion from someone who doesn't have a commercial axe to grind

Had a quick search but couldn't find the thread where some cheaper Juin Tech style brakes were suggested.

w00dster

I had the Spyres on my CDF. They were ok as far as mechanical disc brakes go. Better than the stock brakes (Hayes CX) and also better than Avid's I'd also tried.
To be honest, I would not bother trying to save any money on my brakes. If you are on a fixed budget with your build I would swap the wheels over, so if you are looking at going with the Kinesis CX wheels, I'd look at a cheaper option (Wiggle Disc wheels for example) - think there is about £50 difference. I'd then go with the more expensive braking kit.
I always think go with the better braking /gearing as you can, swapping wheels will happen in time, but I'd rather have the best brakes I can afford now.

bendertherobot

The cheaper ones were at a bike shop up north but can't recall where. I think there is a 10% code for the juin tech at Edge somewhere. Edge10 from memory?

bendertherobot

It was Sheffield Cycles but their website appears to be down/removed now. They were £108 and in grey only.

rob13

Budget isn't strictly fixed but want it to be proportionate to the type of bike the Croix is.

Those Juin tech's look pretty good considering the reviews, it's probably those or the HyRds.

Brakes are certainly not something I want to scrimp on hence going for discs over a set of rims but there is a point of diminishing return. I'm not saying that the fully hydraulic systems aren't a massive step up because they are. I have the SLX system on my MTB and its phenomenally better than the Spyres I had a quick go on. Unfortunately hydraulic setups seem to be just at the point of inception hence their costs.

rob13

Bender, how are you finding the Juin Techs over the winter? Is the anodised finish holding up to the wet and claggy weather?

bendertherobot

Absolutely fine! And quite a bit of my commute is grotty

paul1000

I have the juin tech, they are very good, previously had spyres which started to feel very rough and stiff, think the bearings had gone in them. Just put swissstop pads in the juins and they are amazing.

bendertherobot

http://www.swissstop.com/DiscBrakes/Disc16/Organic/

Those?

ugo.santalucia

The standard pads are plenty good enough

rob13

Thanks for all the replies, think it'll be the Juin techs. Planning to buy the frame this week and then start adding bits.

paul1000

bendertherobot wrote:

http://www.swissstop.com/DiscBrakes/Disc16/Organic/

Those?

Yes, the organic ones

ugo.santalucia

Paul1000 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

http://www.swissstop.com/DiscBrakes/Disc16/Organic/

Those?

Yes, the organic ones

Organic pads always feel great, but on a gritty day you can go through a set easily... they are made of cheese