Scurra :2 - unique enduro bike webpage and coming soon page!

ProjectScurra

Hello,

we are back with some good news for our Scurra :2 fans! We created a brand new website, where you can find everything you would like to know about our product.

http://designment.cc/SCURRA2/


We are starting a crowdfunding campaign soon. Our coming soon page was created on the crowdfunding portal Indiegogo so if you are interested, just type in your e-mail adress and we will let you know when the campaign starts.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/scurra-2-unique-enduro-bike-europe/coming_soon

Best regards,
Team Scurra

rockmonkeysc

I don't understand what the advantages are over a normal set up. I see disadvantages such as non standard parts, complex linkages, limited steering, too much suspension for a 29er. I don't really understand the advantage.
Your website mentions reduced suspension lag, not a problem anyone has ever mentioned. Kind of suggests reduced damping to me. What's the difference in phase angle compared to a standard high quality set up? Is it constant at all shock input amplitudes or does it vary? What's the advantage of reduced lag? As a car suspension designer I'm not entirely sure there is one.
This isn't a new suspension set up. Whyte did it at least 15 years ago and it didn't take off. BMW used to put it on motorcycles with limited success.
Do you think there's a reason why 29ers don't currently have 7" forks?

neilus

To have a review section saying "don’t take our word. See what experts say about the SCURRA 2" then followed by "We were left positively baffled as to what was going on with this intriguing linkage-driven suspension bike, which has two shocks centred in the frame" makes you look ridiculous.
You do know what "baffled" means, right?
You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. People are out there on their Giants, YTs, Specializeds etc... and theyre having a blast because 90% of them are incredibly well designed and spec'd with components that perform well.

Briggo

I love the quotes from the reviewers of various magazines.

You do realise not one of those quotes actually positively reviews the product? i.e. "Wow this was a revelation, this is how all bikes should be". A quote like that would be more worth while.

The video is shockingly poor, it doesn't show the benefits of this new design at all and I noticed he pushed up that pathetic hill, is that because it climbs poorly? Thats the impression I get.

Overall - You're fired.

JBA

That front brake caliper is perfectly positioned to take the brunt of a crash.

The whole thing just looks like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

rockmonkeysc

It looks like it creates more problems than it solves (although I'm not sure it solves any).
I really wouldn't want all those linkages to maintain. Limited steering from the dual crown fork could be annoying (difficult to put in cars to transport, not good in tight trails). It looks like it'll be heavy, there's quite a lot of metal in there.
If you don't like that front end set up you won't be able to just stick on a standard fork, mainly because no one makes a 170mm 29er fork.
There's good reason why Whyte didn't persevere with this type of set up and no other manufacturer has bothered at all.
I suspect that the OP won't ever read any of these comments, it's probably just posted on every forum which came up on a Google search.

cooldad

Yep, logged in, posted, logged out. Seagull post, flies over, drops shit and flies off.

The Rookie

ProjectScurra wrote:

we are back with some good news for our Scurra :2 fans!

I'd love to know how you have fans already!

People interested maybe?

Baron Greenback

http://www.trelever.com/index_e.html#!/System

The trelever site suggests that this weighs the same as a standard fork. Surprised if that is the case.

The Rookie

Err, the Plus-Minus tab says it weighs the same.

Of course it depends on how you make the comparison, but the main uprights are in CF on their picture frame which will save a fair bit, but if you used the cost on a conventional fork you could probably shed some extra weight.

Baron Greenback

The Rookie wrote:

Err, the Plus-Minus tab says it weighs the same.

Of course it depends on how you make the comparison, but the main uprights are in CF on their picture frame which will save a fair bit, but if you used the cost on a conventional fork you could probably shed some extra weight.

And so it does! No idea what I've done there. Thanks.

rockmonkeysc

I don't understand why their video to promote a long travel enduro bike shows it being ridden slowly down a trail better suited to a light, short travel bike. I could ride that trail faster than that on my road bike.

Angus Young

Looks like something from the '80s, those things that ride like shit by today's standards. Something we post up here occasionally to laugh at how mountain bikes used to be. Looks like the designer is just some guy who saw some old bike pics, thought they looked cool and thought he'd have a go but doesn't understand that "How hard can it be?" is not a design philosophy.

rockmonkeysc

Like this?


Or perhaps this beauty


Or how about this one


And here's one in it's natural habitat

The Rookie

Some things can't be unseen dammit!

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Like this?

That first one is a beauty, I'd love to have a go on that with all that suspension going on. I'd love to know how it rides.

cooldad

The Whyte is pretty good, feels weird at first because you don't get normal dive when you brake. Gets a bit sketchy when it gets steep though. Nice XC bike. If it wasn't for the gazillion bearings I'd probably have one.
I've only ever ridden a Klein with normal forks, but it wasn't their finest hour.
Kirks don't need suspension, the frame is flexy enough (unfortunately in the wrong direction) until they break.
As for that BMW, nice cars, good motorcycles, not sure what that POS is.

Angus Young

cooldad wrote:

The Whyte is pretty good, feels weird at first because you don't get normal dive when you brake. Gets a bit sketchy when it gets steep though. Nice XC bike. If it wasn't for the gazillion bearings I'd probably have one.
I've only ever ridden a Klein with normal forks, but it wasn't their finest hour.
Kirks don't need suspension, the frame is flexy enough (unfortunately in the wrong direction) until they break.
As for that BMW, nice cars, good motorcycles, not sure what that POS is.

It's a Whyte! Didn't notice that.

cooldad

Jon Whyte is a bit of a suspension boffin. He worked at Benneton when Shumacher was champ.

The Rookie

The rear swing arm on the Whyte could be straight off a first generation quad link Marin.

cooldad

The Rookie wrote:

The rear swing arm on the Whyte could be straight off a first generation quad link Marin.

Which was also designed by Jon Whyte.

The Rookie

Yes, I knew that!

mike1-2

Loving those review quotes, it's like they've given shocking reviews so the guys who have designed this monstrosity have looked at it and gone 'Right, what can we take out of context to make us look brill?'
Why are the bike guys bigging up a 29" front wheel, the rear is 27.5, have we gone back to 2002 with the Spesh Big Hit?

rockmonkeysc

As an engineer I'm all for new designs as long as they offer a genuine advantage which as far as I can tell, this doesn't.
Maybe if the OP bothered to come back and answers some questions there would be something positive they could bring up and get some interest from potential buyers.
As it is, they just have a rather meaningless claim that the suspension reacts faster than any current bike. In what way does it react faster, and why is that good and will I notice? I've never thought my suspension is slow to react.

cooldad

Spam is spam.

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

Spam is spam.

True dat