Are Schwalbe Rocket Ron Cube Edition Tyres Tubless Ready ?

neilvx
neilvx Posts: 137
edited November 2016 in MTB workshop & tech
As the title says are Schwalbe Rocket Ron Cube Edition tyres Tubless Ready.

I spent a good hour or so trying to seal them but had no joy. I have the tyres to fitted to a cube rim which has Schwalbe high pressure rim tape fitted already.

Thanks in advance.
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Comments

  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,814
    Tubeless ready is pretty meaningless, it's not the same as UST.

    Is the rim tape tubeless?

    What are you using to create the initial seal? While they will sometimes just pump up its nit a given and a compressor or ghetto Coke bottle compressor may well be needed.

    Using any soapy water to start the seal?
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • neilvx
    neilvx Posts: 137
    I used soapy water and even removed the centre of the valve.

    The rim tape is tubeless but there is no markings on the tyre to suggest they are as well ?.
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Are you sure the rim tape is for tubeless? I thinks it's just normal rubber rim tape.
    Have you used sealant?
    Are the tyres folding? Non folding can be a hassle.
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  • neilvx
    neilvx Posts: 137
    100% tubeless tape and used stans no tubes.
    Cube Reaction GTC Pro 27.5 2017 Grey / Yellow Flash
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,814
    According to Schwalbe the high pressure rim tape is not for tubeless, you need the subtly named tubeless rim tape.
    https://www.schwalbetires.com/accessories/rim_tape

    Are the tyres marked TLR, if so they can usually be inflated with a normal track pump (not hand pump) due to the tighter bead, regular folding schwalbe often need a compressor (or coke bottle reservoir).
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • neilvx
    neilvx Posts: 137
    The Rookie wrote:
    According to Schwalbe the high pressure rim tape is not for tubeless, you need the subtly named tubeless rim tape.
    https://www.schwalbetires.com/accessories/rim_tape

    Are the tyres marked TLR, if so they can usually be inflated with a normal track pump (not hand pump) due to the tighter bead, regular folding schwalbe often need a compressor (or coke bottle reservoir).

    It is the tubless tape and is not fabric. The tyres do not have the "TLR" mark which is what I think the problem is.

    Thanks for all the comments.
    Cube Reaction GTC Pro 27.5 2017 Grey / Yellow Flash
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,814
    The "high pressure rim tape" isnt fabric though, its the confusingly titled "high pressure fabric rim tape" that is fabric.
    hp_-_rimtape1_0.jpg
    Is clearly not fabric but not the tubeless tape
    tl_rimtape_roll1.gif
    Basically if its not stuck on but loose its not tubeless (not all stuck on is tubeless either).

    Only one of my Schwalbe tyres are TLR and they all inflate without much issue.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • neilvx
    neilvx Posts: 137
    Thanks for the heads up Rookie, will double check next time I get the tyre off :-)
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