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mavic exalith alternative

thebadgerboy1982thebadgerboy1982 Posts: 266
edited November 2016 in Road buying advice
Hi all,

Im looking for a set of road wheels with a good braking surface. Ive got a set of hplus rims and the braking is ok in wet weather so wanted something a better.

Im looking at the mavic exalith braking surface and it sounds very good. Im not too worried about the colour rubbing off but the braking sounds as if its up to the job.

They are pretty expensive though. Are there any alternatives out there with the extreme cnc braking surface?

Thanks

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  • Im looking at the mavic exalith braking surface and it sounds very good. Im not too worried about the colour rubbing off but the braking sounds as if its up to the job.

    It looks good but sounds awful... :wink:

    Fulcrum makes something similar, albeit in the same price range.

    IMO all these ceramic coated rims are little more than fancy pants
  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,327
    Sounds fine if you set them up properly
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • I thought the sound is quite 'space ship' when braking . They only really squealed a couple of times in the less than two months that I used them, but for the majority of the time they were great. Now they are sat in the garage, replaced by some carbon rimmed beauties as I decided to switch to tubs :-) Hey ho.
  • Most of the wheels with that breaking surface are in a similar price range. I have a set of campag shamal Mille which are the best alloy clinchers I have used, nice stiff wheel and campag hubs are some of the smoothest rolling you will find. Breaking surface on the mavics is good but IMO not as responsive as the shamal (and exalith do screech, very loudly!).
  • I thought the sound is quite 'space ship' when braking .

    There is no noise in space, obviously... :roll:
  • cyclecliniccycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    There is on the films.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • There is on the films.

    Not in the good ones... 2001 a space odyssey was mostly silent
  • I thought the sound is quite 'space ship' when braking .

    There is no noise in space, obviously... :roll:

    But there is in a space ship, obviously... :roll:
    "You really think you can burn off sugar with exercise?" downhill paul
  • on-yer-bikeon-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    There is on the films.

    Not in the good ones... 2001 a space odyssey was mostly silent
    Except for Strauss
    Pegoretti
    Colnago
    Cervelo
    Campagnolo
  • How does anyone actually "know" that it is silent in space??
  • How does anyone actually "know" that it is silent in space??

    Is it a serious question?

    Sound is a mechanical wave and as such it needs a medium to travel through... being that air or else. The concentration of gas in most of the universe is way to low to allow sound to travel.

    Light is an electromagnetic wave and does not need a physical medium to travel through... in fact it does travel much better in the absence of matter than it does in the presence of matter (as the darkness of deep sea clearly shows)
  • BobbinogsBobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    Moving on from space (where no one can hear you scream, afaik), I think the H+ rims I have (the Archetypes) are actually pretty good for braking, even in the wet. Rather than just buy some new wheels, is it worth seeing if something can be more simply improved, such as Swissstop Flash Pro pads or Koolstop Salmons and/or the setup??

    Might also be worth looking at technique, such as tapping every now and then to clear the water film before you actually need to brake.
  • Bobbinogs wrote:
    Moving on from space (where no one can hear you scream, afaik), I think the H+ rims I have (the Archetypes) are actually pretty good for braking, even in the wet. Rather than just buy some new wheels, is it worth seeing if something can be more simply improved, such as Swissstop Flash Pro pads or Koolstop Salmons and/or the setup??

    Might also be worth looking at technique, such as tapping every now and then to clear the water film before you actually need to brake.

    Yes, learn to ride properly and if that fails by a disc break bike
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • norvernrobnorvernrob Posts: 1,424
    Bobbinogs wrote:
    Moving on from space (where no one can hear you scream, afaik), I think the H+ rims I have (the Archetypes) are actually pretty good for braking, even in the wet. Rather than just buy some new wheels, is it worth seeing if something can be more simply improved, such as Swissstop Flash Pro pads or Koolstop Salmons and/or the setup??

    Might also be worth looking at technique, such as tapping every now and then to clear the water film before you actually need to brake.

    Yes, learn to ride properly and if that fails by a disc break bike

    I must really be terrible. I went out in pouring rain on my CX bike with TRP Spyre discs, and was a bit shocked how pants the braking was. Braking heavily (I was on the Trans Pennine so lots of bike gates to slow for) made them scream like stuck pigs too.

    The bike has done a few hundred miles, the pads were bedded in when new and are good in the dry, but my Fulcrum Zero Nite/Campag Blue pad/SRAM Red caliper combo on my Foil are better in both the dry and wet. Maybe I need to try some different pads in the discs, I dunno as it's my first disc bike but I'm not particularly impressed.
  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,327
    Are the pads contaminated??
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • norvernrobnorvernrob Posts: 1,424
    Gweeds wrote:
    Are the pads contaminated??

    I bought the bike new earlier this year, and have never sprayed any kind of oil or lubricant anywhere near the discs so I doubt it. I bedded them in from new by braking really hard multiple times on a steep hill next to my house, so I think I've done the right things with them.

    For the cost of a new set of pads I might as well try some replacements though.
  • mamba80mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    NorvernRob wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Are the pads contaminated??

    I bought the bike new earlier this year, and have never sprayed any kind of oil or lubricant anywhere near the discs so I doubt it. I bedded them in from new by braking really hard multiple times on a steep hill next to my house, so I think I've done the right things with them.

    For the cost of a new set of pads I might as well try some replacements though.

    Mavic Exaliths?
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 16,015

    Im looking at the mavic exalith braking surface and it sounds very good. Im not too worried about the colour rubbing off but the braking sounds as if its up to the job.

    It looks good but sounds awful... :wink:

    Fulcrum makes something similar, albeit in the same price range.

    IMO all these ceramic coated rims are little more than fancy pants

    I have a friend with the Rigida/Ryde tungsten carbide coated rims on his touring bike. 4000 miles in all weathers - no marks to the surface, no wear (unlike my own, new at the start of the ride conventional rims), no dirt, no significant pad wear. They are definitely good stuff but sufficiently expensive to make the economics a bit risky.

    Ryde don't put the coating on lightweight rims though because the benefit is for wet weather riding rather than looking cool with a black braking surface. Basically, the coating is about function rather than form and is clearly in a different quality league to that which Mavic and Campag use.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • norvernrobnorvernrob Posts: 1,424
    mamba80 wrote:
    NorvernRob wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    Are the pads contaminated??

    I bought the bike new earlier this year, and have never sprayed any kind of oil or lubricant anywhere near the discs so I doubt it. I bedded them in from new by braking really hard multiple times on a steep hill next to my house, so I think I've done the right things with them.

    For the cost of a new set of pads I might as well try some replacements though.

    Mavic Exaliths?

    No, discs.
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 16,015
    There is on the films.

    Not in the good ones... 2001 a space odyssey was mostly silent

    If George Lazonby can squeal the tyres of an Aston DBS under braking on a beach then it can be noisy in space.
    Faster than a tent.......
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