Sportive\Gravel\Aero ....do they all do sexy versions !

kingrollo

Just looking at new bikes as I often do, it seems the aero bikes have the market cornered when it comes to sexy ! - That Giant propel advanced pro 2 for £2.5k is so damm sexy --well I could just buy one !

http://www.zaccycles.co.uk/images/img_0 ... eight=1200

Problem for me would be that position just to aggressive for me - no problem they must do a sportive bike that looks the same....err well actually its the defy !
Nothing against the defy (I have one as as winter bike and rate it for that) - but compared to the propel .....well really ?

Then you put into google best sportive bikes - and you get a load disk brake wotsits with 28mm tyres ....

I brought my last bike some year back now (Kuota Kharma 2009) - It looks like a racing bike but has nice relaxed geo and is very nice to ride - it looked pretty similar to the then race Kebel .....

It seems Canyon are on of the few who recognise that there is market for people who want to look like a racer......but maybe can't handle the aggressive geometry ....

Any other good looking relaxed geo bikes that you know of ?

jgsi

An example of a ''sportive' bike professionally set up by a professional mechanic

PTestTeam

kingrollo wrote:

Just looking at new bikes as I often do, it seems the aero bikes have the market cornered when it comes to sexy ! - That Giant propel advanced pro 2 for £2.5k is so damm sexy --well I could just buy one !

http://www.zaccycles.co.uk/images/img_0 ... eight=1200

Problem for me would be that position just to aggressive for me - no problem they must do a sportive bike that looks the same....err well actually its the defy !
Nothing against the defy (I have one as as winter bike and rate it for that) - but compared to the propel .....well really ?

Then you put into google best sportive bikes - and you get a load disk brake wotsits with 28mm tyres ....

I brought my last bike some year back now (Kuota Kharma 2009) - It looks like a racing bike but has nice relaxed geo and is very nice to ride - it looked pretty similar to the then race Kebel .....

It seems Canyon are on of the few who recognise that there is market for people who want to look like a racer......but maybe can't handle the aggressive geometry ....

Any other good looking relaxed geo bikes that you know of ?

Get a carbon frame custom made for you. I have an Epoca R60. Looks sexy IMO. But it's custom made-to-measure, so they will build it to fit with the correct geo for you.

kingrollo

PTestTeam wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

Just looking at new bikes as I often do, it seems the aero bikes have the market cornered when it comes to sexy ! - That Giant propel advanced pro 2 for £2.5k is so damm sexy --well I could just buy one !

http://www.zaccycles.co.uk/images/img_0 ... eight=1200

Problem for me would be that position just to aggressive for me - no problem they must do a sportive bike that looks the same....err well actually its the defy !
Nothing against the defy (I have one as as winter bike and rate it for that) - but compared to the propel .....well really ?

Then you put into google best sportive bikes - and you get a load disk brake wotsits with 28mm tyres ....

I brought my last bike some year back now (Kuota Kharma 2009) - It looks like a racing bike but has nice relaxed geo and is very nice to ride - it looked pretty similar to the then race Kebel .....

It seems Canyon are on of the few who recognise that there is market for people who want to look like a racer......but maybe can't handle the aggressive geometry ....

Any other good looking relaxed geo bikes that you know of ?

Get a carbon frame custom made for you. I have an Epoca R60. Looks sexy IMO. But it's custom made-to-measure, so they will build it to fit with the correct geo for you.

You're reply could prove expensive ! - That R60 ticks a lot of boxes - what is the price range ? - warranty, customer service etc ?

velohutts

Cervelo R3 - comfortable bike, lightweight, decent height head tube to help out on position.

DeVlaeminck

So the OP wants a sportive geometry bike with rim brakes and without clearance for big tyres ?

Hadn't realised bike manufacturers were supplying so many with disk brakes now but if you go to something like Evans cycles website and click on road endurance there is still a fair choice of bikes between fifteen hundred and three grand that fit the bill. Scott solace, Cannondale Synapse, Trek Domane, Cube Attain, Bianchi Infinito ?

wotnoshoeseh

JGSI wrote:

An example of a ''sportive' bike professionally set up by a professional mechanic

Not much wrong with that. That is sweet!!!

kingrollo

DeVlaeminck wrote:

So the OP wants a sportive geometry bike with rim brakes and without clearance for big tyres ?

Hadn't realised bike manufacturers were supplying so many with disk brakes now but if you go to something like Evans cycles website and click on road endurance there is still a fair choice of bikes between fifteen hundred and three grand that fit the bill. Scott solace, Cannondale Synapse, Trek Domane, Cube Attain, Bianchi Infinito ?

I want something that looks like the giant propel advanced pro 2 - but with relaxed geometry !

napoleond

Cervelo would fit the bill for you then.

http://www.thetristore.com/product/cerv ... ApNA8P8HAQ

kingrollo

NapoleonD wrote:

Cervelo would fit the bill for you then.

http://www.thetristore.com/product/cerv ... ApNA8P8HAQ

Getting there but not got the wow factor of the propel.....

In anycase my son had a word - he said my kuota with deep sections wheels would look just as good - he's always loved my Kuota !

At 53 i should be buying a ti bike................or a brompton !

PTestTeam

kingrollo wrote:

PTestTeam wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

Just looking at new bikes as I often do, it seems the aero bikes have the market cornered when it comes to sexy ! - That Giant propel advanced pro 2 for £2.5k is so damm sexy --well I could just buy one !

http://www.zaccycles.co.uk/images/img_0 ... eight=1200

Problem for me would be that position just to aggressive for me - no problem they must do a sportive bike that looks the same....err well actually its the defy !
Nothing against the defy (I have one as as winter bike and rate it for that) - but compared to the propel .....well really ?

Then you put into google best sportive bikes - and you get a load disk brake wotsits with 28mm tyres ....

I brought my last bike some year back now (Kuota Kharma 2009) - It looks like a racing bike but has nice relaxed geo and is very nice to ride - it looked pretty similar to the then race Kebel .....

It seems Canyon are on of the few who recognise that there is market for people who want to look like a racer......but maybe can't handle the aggressive geometry ....

Any other good looking relaxed geo bikes that you know of ?

Get a carbon frame custom made for you. I have an Epoca R60. Looks sexy IMO. But it's custom made-to-measure, so they will build it to fit with the correct geo for you.

You're reply could prove expensive ! - That R60 ticks a lot of boxes - what is the price range ? - warranty, customer service etc ?

3 years warranty, F&F circa £4.5k. Customer service is excellent and very personal. Epoca are only one of a very few Italian builders left who have their own paint shop so can offer one off custom paint jobs too. They even offer a 'Sognare' service, where they can organise a visit to their factory, meet the staff and pick your bike up and go on it's inaugural ride up Monte Grappa!

Anonymous

JGSI wrote:

An example of a ''sportive' bike professionally set up by a professional mechanic

.......For a pro!

Thats just a Roubaix with a slammed stem and sexy kit on isn't it?
Not sure that would work for the OP.
Position is just as aggressive as the Giant.

Guessing the pro rider just wanted some compliance for a bumpy stage/race.
Either that or Specialized made him (or her) ride it to CONvince people to buy Roubaix's 8)

IMO you cannot really fake sexy race bike looks, especially position. It is what it is.

jgsi

I agree ... so plan B .. book some pilates ibruprofen and cod liver oil ... and aim for flexibility in 12 months time.

kingrollo

JGSI wrote:

I agree ... so plan B .. book some pilates ibruprofen and cod liver oil ... and aim for flexibility in 12 months time.

I already do yoga - and go to the gym 4 /5 times a week. I am lucky enough to be able to go in my lunchbreak. The propel is the one bike I could feasibly afford that screams 'buy me' - Even though I have no need whatsoever for a new bike !

I think my plan b is some totally unnecessary deep section wheels - mentioned it to Mrs Kingrollo (straight after redecorating the bathroom, and bedroom mind) and it wasn't an outright no ....fish and chips on Friday I reckon I will get the green light !

Back on topic - the below ain't bad - but I can't wondering is it a regular bike just totally finished in matt black

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

arlowood

Reviewed in this months Cycling Plus



http://www.time-sport.com/bikes/fluidity

Claimed that frames are individually handmade. Geometry is stated to be more relaxed than true race bikes but super stiff and smooth. £4250 if you're interested

DeVlaeminck

kingrollo wrote:

Back on topic - the below ain't bad - but I can't wondering is it a regular bike just totally finished in matt black

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

Are you taking the piss - you dismissed everything that Evans sells on the grounds it's not a Giant Propel lookalike and then say a Ribble Sportive aint bad...

mfin

DeVlaeminck wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

Back on topic - the below ain't bad - but I can't wondering is it a regular bike just totally finished in matt black

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

Are you taking the wee-wee - you dismissed everything that Evans sells on the grounds it's not a Giant Propel lookalike and then say a Ribble Sportive aint bad...

+1 ...shows little taste. The Giant Propel will look dated in no time. The S2 that was dismissed has cleaner lines design-wise than the Propel really, and the Ribble, well, what can you say?

It seems more like a lust for matt black I reckon.

kingrollo

mfin wrote:

DeVlaeminck wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

Back on topic - the below ain't bad - but I can't wondering is it a regular bike just totally finished in matt black

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

Are you taking the wee-wee - you dismissed everything that Evans sells on the grounds it's not a Giant Propel lookalike and then say a Ribble Sportive aint bad...

+1 ...shows little taste. The Giant Propel will look dated in no time. The S2 that was dismissed has cleaner lines design-wise than the Propel really, and the Ribble, well, what can you say?

It seems more like a lust for matt black I reckon.

All about opinions.

All the options are of interest - I hope I haven't been dismissive of anyone contributions.

DeVlaeminck

haha, no worries, looks are subjective after all, otherwise I'd never have found someone to marry me ...

kingrollo

Actually the more I look at it - the more of a boner I'm getting for that cervelo s2 !

DeVlaeminck

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/arti ... kes-48288/

Have a work through them - must be most aero bikes on the market at the moment - see which have less extreme geometry. If you know what kind of stack and reach you favour should be relatively easy to cross off the ones that are too aggressive.

JesseD

The Cervelo S2 and S3 are quite high on the front, so you should get a good comfortable position on one of them.

Also look at the Kuota K-Uno 2017, ok it is over budget but you may get a good deal and the geometry should suit the "sportive" rider. In fact also look at the Kuota Kiral 2017 its has a shorter TT and a higher HT so may be spot on, plus it is within budget.

If you consider other non-aerobikes then maybe look at the Felt Z range, more relaxed geometry and decent frames and still pretty responsive, I raced 2016 Z75 (alu) this year and it coped admirably.

JesseD

Oh and the Stork Aerfast, gets great reviews and looks the business, plus you won't see many of them around.

What I don't like about the Propel is the way the cables enter the TT behind the stem, just looks like the engineers got bored and as it was approaching 5pm on a Friday, just rushed it and thought "that'll do" and left to go to the pub.