Shimano 11sp Cassettes

Moontrane

Any word, hint, or whisper of a cassette ending with 21-23-25-27?

My 6600 shifters have been in service since the earth cooled. I'm considering replacing them with 6700, but a 12-27 11sp cassette would have me move to 11sp.

pilot_pete

Moontrane wrote:

Any word, hint, or whisper of a cassette ending with 21-23-25-27?

My 6600 shifters have been in service since the earth cooled. I'm considering replacing them with 6700, but a 12-27 11sp cassette would have me move to 11sp.

Is it me, or is anyone else unsure as to what you are actually asking? Is the question about 11speed Shimano cassette ratios?

PP

SME

Pilot Pete wrote:

Moontrane wrote:

Any word, hint, or whisper of a cassette ending with 21-23-25-27?

My 6600 shifters have been in service since the earth cooled. I'm considering replacing them with 6700, but a 12-27 11sp cassette would have me move to 11sp.

Is it me, or is anyone else unsure as to what you are actually asking? Is the question about 11speed Shimano cassette ratios?

PP

PP, 6600 series shifters are 10speed - I think the OP wants to move to 11 speed but keep similar gear ratio's????
If that's the case, this might help (a CS 6800 11-28 would be the nearest)...

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 2s&cad=rja



PS. Just re-read. Looks like OP wants to replace 6600 shifters with 6700 (still 10 speed).. why the cassette ratio query?

Confused too, now :?: :shock:

paul2718

If the right 11 speed cassette were available the OP would move to 11 speed, otherwise it's remain 10 speed.

Seems a bit complex to me. 12-28 runs 12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,25,28 Current convention has easier always being better.

Paul

dj58

The 11-28 11 speed cassette ends with 21, 23, 25, 28, so I doubt they are going to produce one that ends with a 27.

Guernsey Donkey

Campag' do 11-27 and 12-27 in 11 speed with 21-23-25-27.

Shimano only do 11sp ending in 23 25 28 30 or 32

chaymck

Sram do a 12-27

bbrap

Guernsey Donkey wrote:

Campag' do 11-27 and 12-27 in 11 speed with 21-23-25-27.

Shimano only do 11sp ending in 23 25 28 30 or 32

So the OP can get his desired ratios by moving to 11sp and using a Campag cassette given that all 11sp spacing is the same. Obviously will need a Campag splined wheel or conversion.

Moontrane

paul2718 wrote:

If the right 11 speed cassette were available the OP would move to 11 speed, otherwise it's remain 10 speed.

Seems a bit complex to me. 12-28 runs 12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,25,28 Current convention has easier always being better.

Paul

Yes, this. Thanks, Paul.

Nothing in the pipeline about a shimano 11sp 12-27? Sorry it wasn't clear.

Moontrane

SME wrote:

Pilot Pete wrote:

Moontrane wrote:

Any word, hint, or whisper of a cassette ending with 21-23-25-27?

My 6600 shifters have been in service since the earth cooled. I'm considering replacing them with 6700, but a 12-27 11sp cassette would have me move to 11sp.

Is it me, or is anyone else unsure as to what you are actually asking? Is the question about 11speed Shimano cassette ratios?

PP

PP, 6600 series shifters are 10speed - I think the OP wants to move to 11 speed but keep similar gear ratio's????
If that's the case, this might help (a CS 6800 11-28 would be the nearest)...

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 2s&cad=rja



PS. Just re-read. Looks like OP wants to replace 6600 shifters with 6700 (still 10 speed).. why the cassette ratio query?

Confused too, now :?: :shock:

If I go to 6700 from 6600 it'll be a long-term commitment. A 12-27 shimano 11sp cassette in the next couple years, though, would have me keep the 6600 until then.

My 10sp cassette ends with 21-24-27, and I hate the gaps. I'd hate even more losing both a 16t and 18t.

Moontrane

chaymck wrote:

Sram do a 12-27

I didn't know there's a sram 12-27 in 11sp - I'll keep looking.

Guernsey Donkey mentioned campy's 12-27, and it's something I'm considering.

trailflow

6700 shifters wont offer much improvement over 6600 apart from the hidden cables. 6700 took a step backwards shifting wise.

Moontrane

trailflow wrote:

6700 shifters wont offer much improvement over 6600 apart from the hidden cables. 6700 took a step backwards shifting wise.

Oh, that's interesting and it reminds me that I used them this spring and found them less smooth than my ancient 6600. My 6600 shifters have over 50,000 miles, so they'll replaced sooner rather than later.

Are 6800 shifters an improvement over 6700, mechanically?

svetty

Moontrane wrote:

Are 6800 shifters an improvement over 6700, mechanically?

Yes, much better. Would need 11 speed mechs and compatible rear wheel though

daniel_b

Moontrane wrote:

chaymck wrote:

Sram do a 12-27

I didn't know there's a sram 12-27 in 11sp - I'll keep looking.

Guernsey Donkey mentioned campy's 12-27, and it's something I'm considering.

I'm not sure the SRAM is available in an 11spd, can certainly see it in a 10. I would be interested if it was though!

Looks like BBB make them, but last time I googled reviews for them, they were less than favourable - £50 gamble anyone?
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/bbb-11spd-cassette-shimano-road/

I prefer closer rations too on an 11spd, and have changed the one on my carbon synapse from an 11-32 to a 12-25 as a result - I'm prepared to put up with the yawning gaps (to me) of an 11-32 on my winter bike, so have kept the cassette for that, but a 12-27 would be the optimum I do believe.

g00se

Miche do a 10-speed Shimano cassette with: 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-27
and an 11 speed with: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25-27

I've ridden Miche cassettes on a Campag bike and they're fine. The sound different when shifting but work the same.

daniel_b

g00se wrote:

Miche do a 10-speed Shimano cassette with: 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-27
and an 11 speed with: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25-27

I've ridden Miche cassettes on a Campag bike and they're fine. The sound different when shifting but work the same.

12/27 for forty notes, doesn't seem too bad.

Moontrane

Daniel B wrote:

g00se wrote:

Miche do a 10-speed Shimano cassette with: 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-27
and an 11 speed with: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25-27

I've ridden Miche cassettes on a Campag bike and they're fine. The sound different when shifting but work the same.

12/27 for forty notes, doesn't seem too bad.

Hmm, thanks for that!

daniel_b

Moontrane wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

g00se wrote:

Miche do a 10-speed Shimano cassette with: 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-27
and an 11 speed with: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25-27

I've ridden Miche cassettes on a Campag bike and they're fine. The sound different when shifting but work the same.

12/27 for forty notes, doesn't seem too bad.

Hmm, thanks for that!

Would you mind replying with how you get on with it please?

Having a brand new 12-25 Shimano unit means I won't be looking to change it out anytime in the imminent future, so would be good to get your feedback if you go for the Miche, or the BBB come to that.

PTestTeam

As Miche cassettes are made up of individual sprockets, you can make up your own custom ratios. The sprockets are available to buy individually. Get in touch with Chicken's, the distributers.

Also as a bit of advice, I use Miche cassettes with a Campag drive train and I've found that using a Miche chain improves the shifting.