Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Angus Young

Dang! And I thought you'd got away with posting a picture of a pensioner's testicle. Ah well...

LimitedGarry

RockmonkeySC wrote:

But definitely not a downhill bike! With 40lb+ of weight and 200mm of very inefficient suspension and super slack geometry it'll just be a whole world of hate trying to do any miles on it. You'd honestly be better off trying to do cross country riding on a Raleigh Chopper, thats not an exaggeration!

Which is pretty much my point. I said would not put a kickstand on DH bike, let alone drill the frame in order to be able to mount it.

machinebike

RockmonkeySC wrote:

LimitedGarry wrote:

cooldad wrote:

I sometimes ride in large groups, and no one has stands. I fact no one I've ever ridden with, which totals hundreds of people over the years has ever had a stand.
They are mountain bikes not touring bikes.

If you do touring through woods, fields, riversides and what not, you need a mountain bike for that.

But definitely not a downhill bike! With 40lb+ of weight and 200mm of very inefficient suspension and super slack geometry it'll just be a whole world of hate trying to do any miles on it. You'd honestly be better off trying to do cross country riding on a Raleigh Chopper, thats not an exaggeration!

Dude... if you are referring to my 2002 Rocky Mountain rm 9 saying insufficient suspension...you may need to re educate yourself on the Rocky Mountain rm 9. This suspension is as good as my 86 Yamaha IT 200

People that speak of dislike concerning the rm 9 apprantly has never owned/ridden one (so it would seem) because not only is the suspension awesome (Ive been leaping off the school loading dock ramp) but also is a great exercise bike (Ive been riding around the neighborhood up and down hills without a problem) so...whats up with all the confusion concerning the rm 9 ??? Not to mention...the bike looks awesome especially with the 24 inch rear wheel and 26 inch front wheel.

machinebike

Its just I feel I'm disrespecting the bike every time I just leave it laying around or against something (and worried about chewing up the handlebar grip ends). But will definately not be drilling a hole in the frame...that's probably more disrespectful now that I think about it.

fenix

Just put the back wheel up against a wall or tree or something. That way the grips dont get chewed up and you're not bashing your pedals. If its good enough for TdF riders on their exotic carbon machines....

cooldad

machinebike wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

But definitely not a downhill bike! With 40lb+ of weight and 200mm of very inefficient suspension and super slack geometry it'll just be a whole world of hate trying to do any miles on it. You'd honestly be better off trying to do cross country riding on a Raleigh Chopper, thats not an exaggeration!

Dude... if you are referring to my 2002 Rocky Mountain rm 9 saying insufficient suspension...you may need to re educate yourself on the Rocky Mountain rm 9. This suspension is as good as my 86 Yamaha IT 200

People that speak of dislike concerning the rm 9 apprantly has never owned/ridden one (so it would seem) because not only is the suspension awesome (Ive been leaping off the school loading dock ramp) but also is a great exercise bike (Ive been riding around the neighborhood up and down hills without a problem) so...whats up with all the confusion concerning the rm 9 ??? Not to mention...the bike looks awesome especially with the 24 inch rear wheel and 26 inch front wheel.

Spot the difference. Perhaps you should actually go inside the school instead of jumping off the loading dock ramp.

rockmonkeysc

The suspension is extremely inefficient when it comes to power transmission. A good amount of your energy goes in to bouncing the rear suspension rather than propelling you forwards.
I have ridden an RM9. In its day it was pretty good as a downhill bike for smashing down nasty downhill tracks. They even did pretty well in racing. They were never designed to be pedalled anywhere other than down a hill and certainly never to ride up hill.
If you think scraping the bar ends is disrespecting it, just take a look at what this bike was designed for.

musclebeach

It hurts me that people who would put a kickstand on a bike can afford such a bike..... and here's me who is working like crazy to afford something like that and would never dream of doing anything as mental as weakening the frame by drilling.........ouch!

cooldad

I think a 14 year old DH bike is worth roughly not a lot.

rockmonkeysc

cooldad wrote:

I think a 14 year old DH bike is worth roughly not a lot.

Less than that.

musclebeach

Haha it sounds like that bike probably creaks more than my knees. Then again it's still. DH bike that's built for abuse, but not a black and decker

machinebike

RockmonkeySC wrote:

The suspension is extremely inefficient when it comes to power transmission. A good amount of your energy goes in to bouncing the rear suspension rather than propelling you forwards.
I have ridden an RM9. In its day it was pretty good as a downhill bike for smashing down nasty downhill tracks. They even did pretty well in racing. They were never designed to be pedalled anywhere other than down a hill and certainly never to ride up hill.
If you think scraping the bar ends is disrespecting it, just take a look at what this bike was designed for.

We may not be on the same page...my fault, I forgot to mention this doesn't have the original suspension..it has Boxers on the front and an Avalanche on the back. I dont know what it originally came with.

The suspension is not a problem when I am peddling.

machinebike

RockmonkeySC wrote:

cooldad wrote:

I think a 14 year old DH bike is worth roughly not a lot.

Less than that.

Are you kidding, Vintage folks...Vintage.

rockmonkeysc

Very few downhill bikes have any vintage value. This one certainly doesn't, it was just a bit too average.

machinebike

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Very few downhill bikes have any vintage value. This one certainly doesn't, it was just a bit too average.

Does that include everyone's opinion, or just your own?

What type of bike do you own Rock? Lets start comparing....and then let the viewers decide.

rockmonkeysc

The Rocky Mountain RM9 didnt bring anything new. It was OK but not as good as the Giant DH team, Ancillotti DHP, Orange 222 or Brooklyn Racelink of the same era.
Since you ask, here's my current bike:

Transition Patrol 2015.
It's really inconvenient carrying around this wooden post to lean my bike against so maybe a kickstand would be a good idea.

I've just sold my Nukeproof Scalp downhill bike but looking for a Devinci Wilson carbon to replace it.

cooldad

After much deliberate deliberation, some headscratching, a little soul searching and consulting with my guru, I think I would choose RockmonkeySC's bike over a rather outdated DH bike.

Close call though. As in close being a million miles.

JBA

Yeah, but would you put a kickstand on it?

rockmonkeysc

I wouldn't. That's why I carry that wooden post to lean it against.

Angus Young

You must look like Jesus with that on your back coming down hill.

rockmonkeysc

Funny you should say that. I read this thread and thought what would I do with my bike when I want to stop and there's nothing to lean it against. Then I asked myself "What would Jesus do"
Jesus would carry a bastard great wooden post.
Praise be brothers.

Angus Young

So Jesus had planned on mountain biking back down the hill and into Jerusalem but the Romans had other ideas once he'd pushed his bike to the top? Puts my torn shoulder at Bike Park Wales in perspective!

rockmonkeysc

Jesus invented the suicide no hander.

pigglet

Quite possible the best thread I've read on an mtb forum in ages. Genius

Cubehead555

machinebike wrote:

I have a 2002 Rocky Mountain downhill bike and was wondering if I should drill a hole under the swing arm and mount a kickstand... good idea or not?

Maybe something like this might suit you better.

natrix

Cubehead555 wrote:

Maybe something like this might suit you better.

Where are the pedals?? :shock: