New Specialized Roubaix range
Giraffoto
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The technological advances are impressive, but I can't help thinking that the looks have suffered . . .
Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
XM-057 rigid 29er
XM-057 rigid 29er
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Not sure if it's partly the way it's set up, but it really does look a bit of a dog's dinner in that photo.0
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If anyone wants to see them in the flesh, I have an invite for two to the Specialized Open House tomorrow, near Chessington. https://ti.to/specialized-uk/specialize ... -september
I cannot go unfortunately.0 -
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I'm confused - that looks like a completely different bike.0
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Road.cc doesnt have the standard seatpost. Other than that its the same though.
The key points are the seatpost clamps where the seat stays meet the seat tube and is much thinner than the seat tube so that it can flex and the cartridge fork steerer/stem mounting for front suspension.0 -
Top photo has a sloping top tube - road.cc photo has a horizontal?Road - '10 Giant Defy 3.5
MTB - '05 Scott Yecora
BMX - '04 Haro Nyquist R24 (don't judge me)0 -
Hmmm my favorite is still the original SL1 ... I probably am biased though0
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This - I realised it was a different seat post which does make it look different, but the top tube is at a completely different angle, that's not set up. The head tube looks different too, but it could be different frame sizes.guy.spartacus wrote:Top photo has a sloping top tube - road.cc photo has a horizontal?0 -
Hmmm - hadnt noticed that. Initially wondered if it was different frame sizes but that just looks like a whole different concept of geometry - I wonder if these were different prototypes before the design was nailed down?0
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Yep the first has the geo of a MAMIL sportive bike but the second has the geo of a race bike. Possibly they have decided to have multiple geometry options?
Also the first one definitely hasn't followed OCP guidelines - chain in the small rings, cranks at a weird angle.0 -
I am digging the new SWAT box on the Ruby - presumably this will be available on the Roubaix too.
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Is that where they hide the motor?Road - '10 Giant Defy 3.5
MTB - '05 Scott Yecora
BMX - '04 Haro Nyquist R24 (don't judge me)0 -
apreading wrote:I am digging the new SWAT box on the Ruby - presumably this will be available on the Roubaix too.
Makes it look like an e-bike.....0 -
yup .. I could never have a swat box in fear that people think I have an E-bike.0
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Good point.
Maybe a transparent swat box then?0 -
apreading wrote:Road.cc doesnt have the standard seatpost. Other than that its the same though.
The key points are the seatpost clamps where the seat stays meet the seat tube and is much thinner than the seat tube so that it can flex and the cartridge fork steerer/stem mounting for front suspension.
Different stems and bottle cages too0 -
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I've just had a look at the Specialized website - all of the models are there. If Bikeradar is right about the prices, then for the Elite model the price has stayed roughly the same, but it's the new "aesthetically different" frame and the spec. of some of the components has been lowered a bit. Mechanical rather than hydraulic disks, Alba rather than Zayante cranks, that sort of thing. I'm now rather glad I got mine when I did - if I were still in the market, I'd probably get a Diverge instead because it has almost the same geometry as the older Roubaix.Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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looking at the specialized website the 54 roubaix seems to have a head tupe of 125mm bit of an understatement that its slightly reduced in length. Thats shorter than the equivalent in the tarmac for definite and possibly in the venge also0
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I think thats to make up for the cartridge suspension which sits above the head tube - so you wont be able to slam the stem down to the top of the head tube, so it needs to be shorter.0
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So it's a bit like this then...0
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A bit disappointed if i am honest. Purchased the di2 disc roubaix earlier this year, then a month later the discounted it by a £1000. That said, I loved the bike and didn't mind too much. I guessed a new roubiax would come and am pleased to say I prefer the look of mine. However, the big thing they are keeping a bit hushed in there release PR is the ditching of SCS. This is whats really got me down. When the CLX32s were released, I thought I would save up to buy them for next year. Then when I read the new roubaix didn't have SCS I rechecked and realised that the CLX32s are not SCS compatible. So now I am stuck with a bike that should have been a grand less than it was, with SCS rear end that already the wheel choices are limited and are only going to get worse as the years go by. Gutted that specialized sold the SCS innovation and then binned it off so quickly. I expect the diverge and crux will follow now.0
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Chrisrebbeck wrote:. . .
the big thing they are keeping a bit hushed in there release PR is the ditching of SCS. This is whats really got me down. When the CLX32s were released, I thought I would save up to buy them for next year. Then when I read the new roubaix didn't have SCS I rechecked and realised that the CLX32s are not SCS compatible. So now I am stuck with a bike that should have been a grand less than it was, with SCS rear end that already the wheel choices are limited and are only going to get worse as the years go by. Gutted that specialized sold the SCS innovation and then binned it off so quickly. I expect the diverge and crux will follow now.
I thought SCS was only applied to the Tarmac disc range. Was I wrong?Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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had a look at these on the launch day. seems likely it will be incredibly popular and that headset is I reckon a game changer.0
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I do wonder though, couldnt the same be done with a clever stem, which could be retro-fitted to any bike? I think maybe thats what the Bianchi in the picture above does and there are kickstarter campaigns for them: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/re ... -bike-stem
Maybe doing it in the stem is heavier than doing it in the headset/steerer?
But with directionally bendy carbon fibre that can be done these days, and done will by Formula 1 teams like McLaren, and which means they dont need the Zertz inserts anymore - couldnt someone just make a springy carbon fibre stem? Which would be lighter than the new Roubaix cartridge system and again usable on any bike.0 -
Although obviously it is in Specialized's interest to have the system built into a clever and expensive bike and proprietary in nature...0
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Graeme_S wrote:
That's one of the development bikes, it quite clearly has a traditional horizontal top tube whereas the production version is sloping.Colnago Master Olympic
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jdee84 wrote:looking at the specialized website the 54 roubaix seems to have a head tupe of 125mm bit of an understatement that its slightly reduced in length. Thats shorter than the equivalent in the tarmac for definite and possibly in the venge also
Yeh I've noticed this too and talking to my LBS who are a Specialized AD, the claims for the new Roubaix are more aero than a Tarmac, stiffer yet more compliant than a Tarmac, he reckons the Tarmac is going to be phased out?Colnago Master Olympic
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Giraffoto wrote:Chrisrebbeck wrote:. . .
the big thing they are keeping a bit hushed in there release PR is the ditching of SCS. This is whats really got me down. When the CLX32s were released, I thought I would save up to buy them for next year. Then when I read the new roubaix didn't have SCS I rechecked and realised that the CLX32s are not SCS compatible. So now I am stuck with a bike that should have been a grand less than it was, with SCS rear end that already the wheel choices are limited and are only going to get worse as the years go by. Gutted that specialized sold the SCS innovation and then binned it off so quickly. I expect the diverge and crux will follow now.
I thought SCS was only applied to the Tarmac disc range. Was I wrong?
Yes - my 2015 Roubaix SL4 Disc has SCS. As has the 2016 version.
Thanks for that Spesh. Now you're doing away with it, the sell on value of my bike will have now plummeted!0 -
I think it looks pretty ugly. I much prefer the look of the previous Roubaix frame. It's the same with the new Allez DSW. It just doesn't look like a Specialized and essentially like a bit of a dog's dinner. I understand the theory behind it, and I'm sure it is all true, but the aesthetics of a bike are also important to me.
In the US they will carry on selling the rim braked Roubaix SL4 in 2017 but sadly not in the UK - I was planning to buy one on the bike to work scheme when I am next able to (next spring) but will have to find something else now.0
