Could my bike geometry and frame size explain my back a d neck pain?

b. 1998
b. 1998 Posts: 88
edited September 2016 in Road general
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Size - 54cm. I am 6'2

Just to note, I only experience pain with rides over 3 hrs which I frequently do. Most of my rides are under 2 hrs.

My neck pain I experience when I'm riding on the drops for too long

My back pain is just generally transpires due to duration on the bike - 2hrs+

Comments

  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Bike is probably too small.
    I ride a 53cm at 5'6"
    Both of my regular riding buds are 5'10" and both ride 54cms.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Levelling the saddle would be a priority for me and might help with the neck pain and back pain. General principle suggests that 54cm will be too small for someone of your height, but without seeing you on the bike, it's not really possible to say whether it is too big for you or not.
  • dowtcha
    dowtcha Posts: 442
    Both of my bikes are 54 and I am 5'9" with a inseam of 32". Where did you get the bike from?
  • LeeDa
    LeeDa Posts: 82
    As per my post to your other post I'd say move saddle back by quite a bit. This will mean your seatpost can move down quite a bit too which will reduce the saddle to bar drop - that is likely to be the source of your neck pain.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    LeeDa wrote:
    As per my post to your other post I'd say move saddle back by quite a bit. This will mean your seatpost can move down quite a bit too which will reduce the saddle to bar drop - that is likely to be the source of your neck pain.

    Pretty sure that's not how it works.
  • LeeDa
    LeeDa Posts: 82
    Imposter wrote:
    LeeDa wrote:
    As per my post to your other post I'd say move saddle back by quite a bit. This will mean your seatpost can move down quite a bit too which will reduce the saddle to bar drop - that is likely to be the source of your neck pain.

    Pretty sure that's not how it works.

    Saddle set back affects seat height. If seat is lower then saddle to bar drop is reduced hence not having to crane the neck as much at least if saddle nose to bar is kept constant so the reach is not increased. However this all isn't ideal but we're talking about getting a too small frame to fit as best it can rather than perfect position.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    LeeDa wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    LeeDa wrote:
    As per my post to your other post I'd say move saddle back by quite a bit. This will mean your seatpost can move down quite a bit too which will reduce the saddle to bar drop - that is likely to be the source of your neck pain.

    Pretty sure that's not how it works.

    Saddle set back affects seat height. If seat is lower then saddle to bar drop is reduced hence not having to crane the neck as much at least if saddle nose to bar is kept constant so the reach is not increased. However this all isn't ideal but we're talking about getting a too small frame to fit as best it can rather than perfect position.

    But adjusting saddle position/height in order to cure a reach problem is a very bad idea.
  • You guys are all missing the elephant in the room here.

    He's got a Zipp 404 Firecrest on a Carrera Zelos; something doesn't add up!
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    You guys are all missing the elephant in the room here.

    He's got a Zipp 404 Firecrest on a Carrera Zelos; something doesn't add up!

    Oh we're not missing it. It is just been given the standard elephant treatment.

    Garmin Vectors as well

    By the way, OP. Don't adjust saddle setback or height to fix a reach issue.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    You guys are all missing the elephant in the room here.

    He's got a Zipp 404 Firecrest on a Carrera Zelos; something doesn't add up!

    Saw that. My mind cannot process it, so I'm having to ignore it.
  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    Agree with most of whats been said, I ride a "54" and am about 5' 8" in height, so this bike seems too small.

    The overall fit of the bike seems horrid, I would start from scratch and put saddle and bars in the "neutral" position - slide the saddle back so its in the middle of the rails and level it out. Adjust the saddle height and start from there. By moving the saddle back that will move your CofG back and mean less pressure on your hands/arms.
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  • zefs
    zefs Posts: 484
    Also, what is your weight and how much psi are you using? I was using 100 psi and was also getting neck pain but now I use around 70 (I am 65kg) and it improved things. Getting 28c tires could also improve things further, if your frame supports them.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,986
    I reckon this is some fairly high quality trolling.
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  • Saadle needs to higher, I would tilt it back rather than forward. Also slam the stem and try some 165mm cranks.
  • Used to get terrible back pain, even just after 30 mins in the saddle.
    Knew my position was wrong so did numerous small adjustments over numerous rides.

    Raised by 2cm, levelled and pushed the saddle back as far as possible.
    Didnt touch the handlebars

    No more back pain even on 4 plus hour rides
  • svetty
    svetty Posts: 1,904
    Daniel B wrote:
    I reckon this is some fairly high quality trolling.

    Agreed - cf the other thread......
    FFS! Harden up and grow a pair :D