Is there something about road tyres that makes them exceptionally difficult to put on??

bungle73

Trying to put my tyre back on my wheel and am finding it IMPOSSBILE. It just won't go on. It's far too tight. I'm having to force it on with tyre levers, but even so once I get one end in, the other side pops out. It's ridiculous! I've tried securing the ends with zip tyres but they won't hold it!

Who designed these bloody wheels?? It's like they never even bothered to check to see if you could get tyres on! I have seen around the net that people have had this issue with these wheels, but I didn't expect it to be so bad!

If I ever get a puncture and I'm out in the middle of nowhere I'm going to be stuffed........

imposter2.0

Some tyre/wheel combinations are tighter than others. Without knowing what tyres or what wheels, it's difficult to offer anything more useful.

lincolndave

Have a read through this, theres some helpful tips for you, viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13065954&p=19894400&hilit=Tight+tyres#p19894400

bungle73

It's Team Vision 30 wheels with Continental Ultra Sport tyres.

I've tried following this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4 but it's still no good!

I'm beginning to wish I'd never bought the bloody things.

bungle73

Just tried another video where the suggested lubbing the tyre bead with dish stop. Still won't f'ing go on. FFS!

bungle73

I've changed my MTB tyres millions of times and never had this much trouble....even with the slicks I bought recently, which are a pain in themselves to get on, but I've done it.

These tyres are just too small to go on....or the rim is. How the f did they put them on in the shop??

bungle73

I've done it!!

I used a combination of the technique shown in the video - although I'm not sure it was doing anything as the tyre didn't seem to move when I tried pushing it in, and the rim didn't seem to have as much space as the one he showed - and also by using a couple of tyres levers at the same time.

bendertherobot

I bought this, you still have to be careful but it does make matters much easier
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Tools-SETZ ... s=bbb+tyre

bungle73

bendertherobot wrote:

I bought this, you still have to be careful but it does make matters much easier
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Tools-SETZ ... s=bbb+tyre

Thanks. Does it come with (English) instructions? Doesn't look like something I could take on a ride though.

bendertherobot

Bungle73 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I bought this, you still have to be careful but it does make matters much easier
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Tools-SETZ ... s=bbb+tyre

Thanks. Does it come with (English) instructions? Doesn't look like something I could take on a ride though.

it is a bit big. But instructions wise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wGxxXp1N8s

Pretty much the same as that one (that one might even be better but it was more expensive)

bendertherobot

These are a bit more portable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4sF-XBqQk4

bungle73

bendertherobot wrote:

Bungle73 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I bought this, you still have to be careful but it does make matters much easier
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Tools-SETZ ... s=bbb+tyre

Thanks. Does it come with (English) instructions? Doesn't look like something I could take on a ride though.

it is a bit big. But instructions wise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wGxxXp1N8s

Pretty much the same as that one (that one might even be better but it was more expensive)

Yeah, thanks. I did actually come across that video when I went searching on YT for what you described.

faster97

Someone will be along soon to tell you that with the right technique, you should be able to fit any tyre using only your thumbs. Ignore them.

I've tried the combination you were struggling with and it's really difficult. Fitting GP4000s to these rims is much, much harder.

I've now got a VAR tyre lever. It's cheap, portable and makes the job really easy. I'd still have a practice before you need to rely on it out on the road though. I'm sure the other suggestions work too, but I've not tried them.

bungle73

Not sure about those two types. I'm thinking the first type may be better? Especially with a non-folding tyre?

bungle73

faster97 wrote:

Someone will be along soon to tell you that with the right technique, you should be able to fit any tyre using only your thumbs. Ignore them.

I've tried the combination you were struggling with and it's really difficult. Fitting GP4000s to these rims is much, much harder.

I've now got a VAR tyre lever. It's cheap, portable and makes the job really easy. I'd still have a practice before you need to rely on it out on the road though. I'm sure the other suggestions work too, but I've not tried them.

TBH I can't even find a video of how one uses that type?

apreading

I find the problem if often because of tubeless ready rims - it seems that to make the tubeless tyre more secure, they make the rim circumference just slightly bigger. With Stans Crest, I have lost hours, snapped tyre levers, hurt myself and still struggled to get any tyre on - and that's not road tyres.

I have just discovered Stans Rim Tape though - its thinner than normal rim tape, which helps, and goes right down into the well running along the centre of the rim. This means that if you put the bead of the tyre into that well (as you are supposed to do) then it makes a huge difference from other rim tape. With other rim tape like Velox and the rubbish superstar rim tape etc, you cant make full use of the well in the centre of the rim and that makes things flippin hard!

I found that there is a second problem with rims like the Stan's Crest too though - when the tyre is inflated, the bead doesnt seat properly onto the rim. Splash a bit of water with washing up liquid on the bead though and overinflate slightly and it will then 'pop' on.

part time waster

Some wheels dont have the well in the middle of the rim. My campag neutrons are totally flat right across and tyre fitting is very hard. Never used them in winter for that reason. Cold fingers etc. Great running wheels one of the best i have used., but wouldnt buy them again.

bungle73

I've ended up with a puncture on the exact same wheel! So now I've got to go through the process all over again! :x

I'm not even sure when it happened. I last took my bike out a few days ago for a ~13 mile ride, and I'm pretty sure it was ok when I got home (although I didn't check). I did wheel it outside into the garden yesterday though, to take a pic, so maybe it happened then?