Winter bike with discs advice

dancowley
dancowley Posts: 37
edited June 2016 in Road buying advice
Hi folks,

I was looking for some recommendations for a new winter bike. I'm looking for something that fits the following criteria:

1) Hydraulic disc set-up.
2) Can fit proper full length mudguards, not clip-ons.
3) Preferably has a more racy geometry.
4) About £1000(ish)

I'm not too worried about what frame material or manufacturer.

Any recommendations out there?

Thanks in advance,

Dan

Comments

  • holiver
    holiver Posts: 729
    I think Pinnacle do bikes that would suit.
  • lakesluddite
    lakesluddite Posts: 1,337
    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXLDNRIV ... -road-bike

    All boxes ticked? (Except maybe geometry).
  • RobinB2
    RobinB2 Posts: 111
    Ah - was just about to post a similar thread as my Genesis Equlibrium is now kaput. Candidates I have looked at so far are:

    Planet X London Road
    Genesis Equilibrium Disc (nice but a bit pricey)
    Pinnacle Arkoose (?)

    Any other suggestions welcome!
  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561


    I can tick the geometry box but maybe the mudguard and hydraulic disc box would remain unticked.

    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRTD80B ... -road-bike

    However for a tad over budget the hydraulic discs can be added back in

    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRTD80/ ... -road-bike
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I'd have said alu: Kinesis 4S disc or steel: Genesis Equilibrium disc, but I'm not sure you'd build either of them into a complete bike with hydraulic discs for a grand...
  • alan_sherman
    alan_sherman Posts: 1,157
    I keep looking at this market. How wide a tyre are you wanting to run? Gravel bikes go wide, but you may be ok with road disc bikes that seem to get stuck at 28mm. Personally for commute / winter / light touring rides a 30 or 32 would be nice, I wouldn't want to be stuck with 25c max under guards.

    Pinnacle Arkose - Hydro, wide tyres. Not very racy though.
    Pinnacle do a road bike (the dolomite 5) if you prefer 25c max with guards: https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-do ... e-EV244121
    Cube cross race seems another option: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube ... lsrc=aw.ds
    Planet x london road? I'm a shimano user so not for me - but a good value option: http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/road ... ondon-road




    If you can hold off the full hydraulic then there are more options:
    Whyte Dorset: Use TRP HyRd semi hydro brakes. Geo looks good. Check whther new or old Tiagra. Possibly limited tyre clearance. http://www.whyte.bike/#!dorset-16/l0bq5
    The Suffolk 105 hydor option is £1300 but perhaps look out for it in the sales!
    Eastway Balun: HyRd brakes, Tiagra, mudguard mounts (no rack though) and cheap
    Jamis Renegade exploit: Hyrds: https://www.evanscycles.com/jamis-reneg ... e-EV245160
    Vitus: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/vitu ... prod135401
    GT grade (HyRds)
    Boardman cx?

    And cable disc options
    Verenti Substance: Narrower tyres, not hydro. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/verenti-substance-105-2016/
    Norco search alloy - cable discs, geo looks good, good price (105 or Tiagra).
    Orro Terra gravel bike: https://www.orrobikes.com/bikes/road/terra-gravel-road.
    Charge Plug 4 (Fat tyres: 42c! cable disc)
  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561
    Another option just springs to mind - Whyte Suffolk

    Alloy frame with carbon forks
    TRP Hy/Rd Mechanical/Hydraulic brakes (on the 2015 model)
    Shimano full hydraulics on the 2016 model but a price increase to reflect that
    Mudguard capability (as seen in the Road CC review in the link below on the 2016 model)

    http://road.cc/content/review/185117-whyte-suffolk-105

    The TRP Hy/Rd (2015) model can be had for a little bit above your budget although the seller describes it as 2016

    http://www.ukbikesdepot.com/m16b188s6p1 ... AoV18P8HAQ

    The 2016 model with the hydraulics is £100 more

    http://www.cyclesurgery.com/pws/UniqueP ... lsrc=aw.ds

    EDIT - Just beaten to the punch by alansherman above on the Whyte Suffolk
  • alan_sherman
    alan_sherman Posts: 1,157
    Also just came across the Mango AR. No hydro but some bloody good value options (and a 32mm tyre :o))

    https://www.mangobikes.com/shop/bikes/p ... ar-claris/
  • holiver
    holiver Posts: 729
    Pinnacle do a road bike (the dolomite 5) if you prefer 25c max with guards: https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-do ... e-EV244121
    Yerp this and the one above were those I had in mind when I mentioned Pinnacle.
  • BlueDynamo
    BlueDynamo Posts: 143
    Personally I would wait another couple of months until the major bike manufacturers have released their 2017 bikes unless you're desperate to pick up a 2016 bargain.

    From the few 2017 releases I've seen so far, there seems to be a shift towards road bikes with bigger tyres with guard mounts, flat mount disc brakes and a move towards the standardisation of thru axles. With the new version of Tiagra getting hydraulic disc brakes this will give even more choice.
    "One thing that is worse than Carlton Kirby: people complaining about Carlton Kirby.

    Talk about first world problems."

    The_Boy, 13/4/14, Paris-Roubaix 2014 "spoiler" thread
  • Donie75
    Donie75 Posts: 92
    Does anyone know if Canyon will be doing the Endurace Al with discs in their 2017 range?
    I'm keen to buy a new winter bike and I would definitely go for one of these. I'm tempted with the rim brake model already.
  • tjm160
    tjm160 Posts: 35
    Mechanical rather than Hydralic Disc brakes, but I can thoroughly recommend the 2016 Diant Defy Disc 1 (high end Aluxx). Naturally the mechanical disc brakes aren't a patch on the hydralics on my MTB. However, once run in after a few hundred KM, they are plenty more than adequate and I'm no lightweight (15st). I also note there are places already running these out at ~£850.

    IMG_7117.jpg

    I should also add that I run mine on Vredestein Xtreme Weather 28mm tyres and there's still clearance to go bigger if desired (although the mudguards wouldn't cover). As my best bike (carbon) has been poorly for the last month waiting a warranty replacement frame (cracks in paint around seat post), I've ridden this in the dry as well as wet and frankly, once the 25mm tyres need replacing on my best bike, they will almost certainly be replaced with 28mm. I've seen no discernible speed difference between the 25mm and the 28mm and the 28mm take out a lot more of the road buzz and that's even comparing the carbon best vs. aluminium wet bike.

    Best wishes with your decision.
    Tim
  • fatsmoker
    fatsmoker Posts: 585
    I've had my Bish bash Bosh for nearly a week and love it. I thought the 35 tyres would be overkill and slow me down but they don't. It is heavier than my Spec Secteur but my commutes are no slower, possibly due to the extra comfort of the wider tyres over the crappy raods. I got the mechanical discs which are fine. Edit: I find the Sram hoods more comfortable than the Shimao 105 hoods.
  • cookeeemonster
    cookeeemonster Posts: 1,991
    Have a look at Rose bikes or Canyon, will be better value though mail order only
  • fatdaz
    fatdaz Posts: 348
    What about the Merida Ride disc 500? Not sure if it accepts mudguards but if it does you get full Ultegra and hydraulic discs for under £1200. Doesn't tick the racy geometry box but you did say "preferably"
  • stueys
    stueys Posts: 1,332
    Caadx rival 22. Bit over budget but a nice bike