New rider, suggestions for cheaper end kit

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  • rhodrich
    rhodrich Posts: 867
    itboffin wrote:
    Unless this fella is big into kungfu and has the smelly bridge of a well worn cowboys saddle I strongly recommend he spends a little bit more on shorts or his time as a road cyclist will be very short indeed.

    DHB is an excellent start, sale tastic should bag a cheap pair, try looking out for the ride London discount stuff or their areon whatever it called stuff

    You can tell him about chammy cream a bit later

    I've been cycling for 25 years, and I still don't know what chammy cream is for. But then I've always used proper leather saddles.....
    1938 Hobbs Tandem
    1956 Carlton Flyer Path/Track
    1960 Mercian Superlight Track
    1974 Pete Luxton Path/Track*
    1980 Harry Hall
    1986 Dawes Galaxy
    1988 Jack Taylor Tourer
    1988 Pearson
    1989 Condor
    1993 Dawes Hybrid
    2016 Ridley Helium SL
    *Currently on this
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    I have a 33" waste, 14-16 is fine, 12-14 a bit snug, I bought two pairs which lasted 3 years each and am now on my second two pairs (one is used for commuting, the other for long weekend rides when I'm overseas with work when the stack of pockets comes in handy).

    Chamois cream is for keeping the leather saddle soft as it leaches out........
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    The Rookie wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    Woah this just took an interesting turn, so what other ladies clothes have you been wearing?

    Also just NO to baggies, embrace your inner MAMIL do not hide him
    Nothing else for a while.....

    Sorry but no, as an MTBer I believe that Lycra is only for under the baggies, besides I'd have to find somewhere for the keys, phone and wallet - I have no inner MAMIL.

    That said having just bought a 'Zesty Lime' (Kermit green) London road frame to replace my ageing (2005) Carrera Gryphon frame, Lycra would probably look more in keeping!

    that's how it starts before you know it you'll be standing at the bar of the Morpeth Arms telling everybody how you just smoked those SCR pretenders
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Need to get rid of the aero drag from a pannier first (without getting a sweaty back!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • rhodrich
    rhodrich Posts: 867
    The Rookie wrote:
    Need to get rid of the aero drag from a pannier first (without getting a sweaty back!

    Get a Carradice saddle bag then.
    1938 Hobbs Tandem
    1956 Carlton Flyer Path/Track
    1960 Mercian Superlight Track
    1974 Pete Luxton Path/Track*
    1980 Harry Hall
    1986 Dawes Galaxy
    1988 Jack Taylor Tourer
    1988 Pearson
    1989 Condor
    1993 Dawes Hybrid
    2016 Ridley Helium SL
    *Currently on this
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Not sure its any more aerodynamic and it won't take a laptop!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • rhodrich
    rhodrich Posts: 867
    The Rookie wrote:
    Not sure its any more aerodynamic and it won't take a laptop!

    Definitely more aerodynamic (I speak from experience!). Not subject to crosswinds like a Pannier. Doesn't require a pannier rack, and yes, a Carradice Nelson or Camper will take a laptop easily.
    1938 Hobbs Tandem
    1956 Carlton Flyer Path/Track
    1960 Mercian Superlight Track
    1974 Pete Luxton Path/Track*
    1980 Harry Hall
    1986 Dawes Galaxy
    1988 Jack Taylor Tourer
    1988 Pearson
    1989 Condor
    1993 Dawes Hybrid
    2016 Ridley Helium SL
    *Currently on this
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Hmm, worth a thought....I had thought of removing the pannier clips from the pannier and attaching to a plastic briefcase as that would be more aerodynamic.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Rhodrich wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Not sure its any more aerodynamic and it won't take a laptop!

    Definitely more aerodynamic (I speak from experience!). Not subject to crosswinds like a Pannier. Doesn't require a pannier rack, and yes, a Carradice Nelson or Camper will take a laptop easily.

    i'm not sure something like that would work here, going over some of the steep hills its already a challenge to keep the front wheel down with two full rear panniers, shifting all the weight behind the saddle surely would be worse?

    I had/have the pannier and aeroBRICK problem whilst not a total solution i have found that using the altura ultra lightweight panniers and the lightest rack made a huge difference, also those panniers pack down to nothing when empty.

    Fully waterproof as well which is a first for me, my cheap London ones weigh over 2lbs and puddle rain inside, sort of like a swimming pool for my work clothes, which is nice! :evil:
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    The Rookie wrote:
    Hmm, worth a thought....I had thought of removing the pannier clips from the pannier and attaching to a plastic briefcase as that would be more aerodynamic.

    www.tredz.co.uk/.Altura-Urban-Dryline-B ... sku=211943
  • rhodrich
    rhodrich Posts: 867
    itboffin wrote:
    Rhodrich wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Not sure its any more aerodynamic and it won't take a laptop!

    Definitely more aerodynamic (I speak from experience!). Not subject to crosswinds like a Pannier. Doesn't require a pannier rack, and yes, a Carradice Nelson or Camper will take a laptop easily.

    i'm not sure something like that would work here, going over some of the steep hills its already a challenge to keep the front wheel down with two full rear panniers, shifting all the weight behind the saddle surely would be worse?

    Well you're shifting the weight slightly further forward (making the bike more stable under the circumstances), albeit higher up (so slightly less stable), so all in all it probably doesn't make that difference at all, but I guess it also depends on the weight of your luggage. If you're carrying more than about 6-7kg, then panniers probably would make more sense. I'd suggest that with '2 full rear panniers', you might want to think about getting some front panniers to balance the load a bit better. Not very aero at all though!
    1938 Hobbs Tandem
    1956 Carlton Flyer Path/Track
    1960 Mercian Superlight Track
    1974 Pete Luxton Path/Track*
    1980 Harry Hall
    1986 Dawes Galaxy
    1988 Jack Taylor Tourer
    1988 Pearson
    1989 Condor
    1993 Dawes Hybrid
    2016 Ridley Helium SL
    *Currently on this
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    apreading wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Hmm, worth a thought....I had thought of removing the pannier clips from the pannier and attaching to a plastic briefcase as that would be more aerodynamic.

    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Altura-Urban-Dr ... sku=211943
    Thanks, too small though!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • wolfsbane2k
    wolfsbane2k Posts: 3,056
    Just found that Havant aldi have reduced their cycling stuff to clear, might be national.
    Intent on Cycling Commuting on a budget, but keep on breaking/crashing/finding nice stuff to buy.
    Bike 1 (Broken) - Bike 2(Borked) - Bike 3(broken spokes) - Bike 4( Needs Work) - Bike 5 (in bits) - Bike 6* ...
  • MisterMuncher
    MisterMuncher Posts: 1,302
    Galibier. Cracking kit, priced well below anything comparable.