Non-Rapha Rapha stuff on the Bay

DavidfromWarboys

Ok, so I'll "come out". I'm a rapha fan-boy ;-)

There now that's done, has any body ever bought new Rapha stuff BNWT off the Bay from non-Rapha sellers?

Here's a link, if it is allowed, just as an example....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Cycling ... SwsN9XBn48

Is it likely to be the real thing? The discounts are n't that great so I'm really not sure if it is worth. Especially given the Rapha aftercare.

Ta,
DM

bendertherobot

DavidfromWarboys wrote:

Ok, so I'll "come out". I'm a rapha fan-boy ;-)

There now that's done, has any body ever bought new Rapha stuff BNWT off the Bay from non-Rapha sellers?

Here's a link, if it is allowed, just as an example....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Cycling ... SwsN9XBn48

Is it likely to be the real thing? The discounts are n't that great so I'm really not sure if it is worth. Especially given the Rapha aftercare.

Ta,
DM

Yes. For some reason that seller gets a load of their stuff. No idea why or how, just a big bulk purchase of old stock i guess.

DavidfromWarboys

Many thanks for your quick reply Bender!

I guess for stuff I like that is no longer available through the shop then this could be a good way forward.

DM

bendertherobot

Very much so, there are some amazing deals if you're the right size:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Cycling ... tWYYXAqw6g

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Navy-Te ... SwjMJXBo4M

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Chartre ... 6FgmI9jvgA

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Imperia ... SwpoJXD89H

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw= ... a&_sacat=0

Pages worth in fact!

letap73

The rapha shop on ebay is also excellent - it does sell out very quickly though. There are some individual sellers - who do appear linked who primarily sell Castelli, Rapha, Gore and especially Arcteryx at a significant discount - you will find them easily - selling Castelli Gabbas. I did buy an Castelli Alpha jersey off one seller for an absolute song - however, if it is a fake then its an amazing fake.

kajjal

The fakes tend to be very obvious and from outside the UK.

cookeeemonster

bendertherobot wrote:

Very much so, there are some amazing deals if you're the right size:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Cycling ... tWYYXAqw6g

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Navy-Te ... SwjMJXBo4M

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Chartre ... 6FgmI9jvgA

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rapha-Imperia ... SwpoJXD89H

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw= ... a&_sacat=0

Pages worth in fact!

Pretty amazing if you're big or small

bernithebiker

I'm small in Rapha and I like their Pro Team bibshorts (but not much else if I'm honest).

Everything seems to be either XXL or XS. IS it worth me scouring through for an S?!

londoncommuter

On a kind of related matter, anyone want a XS Rapha Davis Phinney jersey I got from their ebay site?

http://pages.rapha.cc/stories/introduci ... ey-jerseys

Lovely and snug and with proper length arms but I think the back is maybe 1cm too short for me so I was going to return it. I'm very skinny but 5'9'' so get this a fair bit. Happy to pass it on instead for the stupidly low £40 I paid. The current year model is £140 I think so a bargain.

iPete

Rapha just did a bunch of sample sales, could be some professional shoppers..

DavidfromWarboys

What's the link for the official Rapha eBay shop? Can somebody post it please I can never find the bloody thing?

londoncommuter

Not sure if this link will work but it's these guys:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/rapharacinguk

Nothing for sale at the moment though which seems odd.

teebs_123

londoncommuter wrote:

Not sure if this link will work but it's these guys:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/rapharacinguk

Nothing for sale at the moment though which seems odd.

Closed down, all old stock etc on the website

itboffin

One trip to the Rapha archive store and you could stock an eBay shop for a year if you wanted to at a fraction of those prices and in all sizes.

I wore my pro bib shorts light weight jersey a brevet gilet yesterday

£75, £40, £40 and some arm warmers from Rapha very first sample sale in London for £10

daniel_b

letap73 wrote:

The rapha shop on ebay is also excellent - it does sell out very quickly though. There are some individual sellers - who do appear linked who primarily sell Castelli, Rapha, Gore and especially Arcteryx at a significant discount - you will find them easily - selling Castelli Gabbas. I did buy an Castelli Alpha jersey off one seller for an absolute song - however, if it is a fake then its an amazing fake.

The Rapha shop is no more as of anytime soon I think.

I always assumed that shop listed above had seconds maybe, but yes noticed they have loads of stuff, but tends to be xs or xxl in the main, so maybe just over stock, but why they wouldn't then just get rid of them through the archive store is what confused me, hence my seconds theory.

dowtcha

Don't think they are seconds as rapha does no manufacture it's clothing so anything thing that is a second is at no cost to them.
They would not let the contractor sell them on as poor quality items could affect the brand. most seconds that are sold on eBay come directly from companies that made their own goods. Trickers shoes been a good example. Rapha eBay shop rip.

daniel_b

Dowtcha wrote:

Don't think they are seconds as rapha does no manufacture it's clothing so anything thing that is a second is at no cost to them.
They would not let the contractor sell them on as poor quality items could affect the brand. most seconds that are sold on eBay come directly from companies that made their own goods. Trickers shoes been a good example. Rapha eBay shop rip.

The reason I thought that is that some of the ads show the label on the bag with a black cross through it, and indeed a jersey I bought had that on the bag, though personally I could see zero defects on it at all, so had no issues.
Additionally that treasures4u (Spelling?) had a charteuse jersey for sale with a hole on the shoulder, all declared and pictured, which was another reason I thought it might be a second.
And I have also seen some garments for sale with a black cross on the garments internal label.

adambruntlett

bernithebiker wrote:

I'm small in Rapha and I like their Pro Team bibshorts (but not much else if I'm honest).

Everything seems to be either XXL or XS. IS it worth me scouring through for an S?!

This. Always happens, so clearly Rapha (and loads of other companies) make far too many overly large or small sizes of their clothing. Why do they not learn and adjust their production accordingly? I hate being fairly 'normal' sized, never get any bargains!

lakesluddite

Daniel B wrote:

Dowtcha wrote:

Don't think they are seconds as rapha does no manufacture it's clothing so anything thing that is a second is at no cost to them.
They would not let the contractor sell them on as poor quality items could affect the brand. most seconds that are sold on eBay come directly from companies that made their own goods. Trickers shoes been a good example. Rapha eBay shop rip.

The reason I thought that is that some of the ads show the label on the bag with a black cross through it, and indeed a jersey I bought had that on the bag, though personally I could see zero defects on it at all, so had no issues.
Additionally that treasures4u (Spelling?) had a charteuse jersey for sale with a hole on the shoulder, all declared and pictured, which was another reason I thought it might be a second.
And I have also seen some garments for sale with a black cross on the garments internal label.

I think this is what they may do at the 'archive' stores. I got a hardshell from the Kilver Court archive place, and that had a felt-tip pen cross on the inside label, although not sure if they'd do this with thinner items such as jerseys.
I did get a Brevet jersey from the Mcr store, it didn't have a cross on anything as far as I'm aware, but I can't remember if it had one on the plastic bag.
I note that there is no archive section in the Mcr store these days - must be taking it all online?

ayjaycee

FWIW, over the last year or so, I have had four jerseys (Pro Team, LS x 2 and Super Lightweight) from the Kilver Court shop (in the words of Jim Royle: 'Archive Store, my arse'!) and none of them had black crosses or other extra marks on them. I haven't found anything with any of them to indicate that they might be seconds or sub-standard in any way and would have thought that they would be legally bound to tell you if that were so (but I am no expert on consumer law). That said, what you do miss out on when buying from the discount store is the repair warranty (which I was told about at the point of sale). It's probably the same for the ebay stuff but they do seem to have some half decent bargains if you're the right size.

dowtcha

Seconds have to be declaered in the description, some dishonest sellers with a few times might not declare seconds but this seller has just has to many items. Most items are funny sizes so looks like bulk sale of unsold times. Plenty of bargains just buy winter gear during summer and your summer gear in winter.