Mountain Bike S WORKS- SPECIALIZED M5, clicking Noise on the crank area.

CARETAKER46

Hi All,
Newbie to the forum and appreciated for letting me join the forum.

When I ride my Mountain Bike S WORKS- SPECIALIZED M5, I hear the click noise when I pedal, I even lubricated with WD40 around the Crank area on the Bottom bracket. I rode my bike in the morning and it still make the click noise, as it makes when I pedal my bike, but when I pedal freely, without sitting on the bike and just pedalling by hand there is no sound of the click. So it only makes it when I ride my bike and pedalling with my feet.

I have check the seat, as I don’t think there is noise coming from there.

I have taken the pedal out and lubricated the thread by WD40 and screwed the pedal back, so this has not made any difference.

I only use the bike for commuting to work which 3-4 miles a day, 5 days a week and sometimes Guild wheel with Sky ride once a year 21Miles.

I also noticed another problem, when I ride my bike, as sometimes it makes a noise or jumping on the chain, Chain ring or cassette, as I do not if the chain, Chain ring or cassette is faulty, as I am not sure what it is, as it only happening on the 1ST SMALL chain ring and 2ND Middle Chain ring and the 3rd Large chain rings it does not happens, so this 3rd one is ok.

What Tools will I require to buy, as I want to service the bike myself, as I now take it to work every day and wanton keep my bike in top toe condition?

How do I know if I need to service my shock absorbers and how do I service them?


p.s How do i upload pictures Please ?

S WORKS- SPECIALIZED
Mavic Rims
Specialized Pro Tyre.
Shimano Xtr Pedal Crank.
Shimano Disc Brakes
Fox racing shocks Suspension (float).
Shimano Xtr Gear
M5 Specific Alloy

cooldad

WD40 is not a lubricant. It will however strip out any lubricant that was there.

Read Parktools, link below, for general maintenance stuff, check, adjust (sounds like your mechs need indexing) and lube everything properly, then see what noises it makes.

JGTR

Do you have a SRAM PF Bottom bracket? If so they are w a n k and it's the first thing is replace, mine went after a short period of time and reading online they don't last long. Failing that mine had a click when the suspension was compressed, turned out one bearing needed replacing.

CARETAKER46

Thank you cooldad for the Parktools Link, as it has got some good information and Video, which i will have a look.

I want to buy basic tools which i will use it for my bike for servcing, changing pads, Lubricating and so on.

Wd40 i will avoid and What sort of grease do i need to use or where do you buy them from ?

What do you mean (sounds like your mechs need indexing)

Please see below link for the images of the Mountain bike.

https://imageshack.com/my/images

CARETAKER46

Hi JGTR,
I do not know if i have the SRAM PF Bottom bracket, as i have just uploaded the pictures on the Imageshack.

JBA

The photo link doesn't work.

What model bike do you have and what year is it?

CARETAKER46

Thankyou for your replies.

See below if the links works.

https://imageshack.com/i/plbn4hcmj
https://imageshack.com/i/plnh9Vihj

My bike is somewhere around 10 years old may be 2006/2007.

Model i am not sure, as it could be STUMPJUMPER FSR ANNIVERSARY.

CARETAKER46

Hi All,
I forgot to mention sometimes when i break, it can makes noise like Squealing not every time, i think when it wet , as i forgot now, but it did not make the noise this morning when i rode my bike to work this morning.

Thanks Again.

JGTR

Bottom bracket would be the first thing I'd change, especially on a bike of that age

CARETAKER46

Hi JGTR,
Thank you for your reply.

I will need to buy Shimano Crank Installation Tool for FCM960, as i need to take the nut off first - https://www.evanscycles.com/shimano-cra ... 0-00103332

I am not sure which Bottom Bracket to buy, as the below link is this the correct one

https://www.evanscycles.com/shimano-m98 ... t-EV198181.

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-pa ... or-89-5-mm

I will buy the grease Weldtite Lithium Grease Tube 40g - https://www.evanscycles.com/weldtite-li ... g-EV170631

oodboo

Hi,

That's a Specialized Epic, not a stumpjumper. Like the others have said I'd start with replacing the BB, my cx bike was creaking and replacing the BB fixed it. However you also have suspension pivots that can make a noise and there are other things that can be noisy.

That's the correct tool but I'd save a few quid and get this BB instead:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shim ... -prod41445
For the riding you've described you won't notice the difference between that and the XTR BB.

CARETAKER46

Thanks oodboo for the Link, as it is cheap, as i went to the Evans Shop it was £21.99.

I will change other items like the cable for the gear, may be the cassette and lubricate Stem under handle bar, Fork Top and bottom.

I will check the suspension, but it does not make noise same as when i pedal.

rockmonkeysc

JGTR wrote:

Do you have a SRAM PF Bottom bracket? If so they are w a n k and it's the first thing is replace, mine went after a short period of time and reading online they don't last long.

I've got one that's two years old and done loads of miles. From what I understand, life depends on how they're fitted. If they aren't perfectly true they'll last no time. And you'll read about loads on the internet which have died quickly because they sold loads and no one ever writes on forums to say something just works ok.

CARETAKER46

I apprecaited all your guys replies, as your help and advice was excellent. I respect this, as i do not know how to thankyou all of you lads. great Lads and Forum.

I have seen quite a few Video and starting to understand the Gear adjustment, as i need to do the rear and then the front, as i have check the Parktool and Art's Cylclery. Now i know which screw to adjust on the derailleur it make the easier, as before , i never knew what the screw does.

Does my bike have brake fluid oil, as i have Disc brakes and these will have the piston to push the pads together on the brake disc, similar to car, but i can not see the Brake fluid on my bike.

I thinking of Buying these tools from Ebay for my bikes, as most of the componets are Shimano and i will needs a bike maitenance stand to work on the bike, so once i get the bike stand from Ebay or Gumtree, then i will start servcing my bike.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... s&_sacat=0 £32.99


I have uploaded better picture, this is if you want to see the images


https://www.imageshack.us/my/images

https://www.imageshack.us/i/pm9dQvEbj

The Rookie

The two common brake fluids are DOT (Avids, Hayes, Tektro and others) and Mineral Oil (Shimano, Magura I believe and maybe more), so the right fluid depends on what brake you have.

The lever assembly contains the reservoir and master cylinder, it needs no maintenance unless it has an issue, tampering is often the way to make it need fixing - if it ain't bust don't fix it!

A stand certainly isn't needed, I've done all my own maintenance and stripped and built a fair few bikes and never used one.

cooldad

I resisted a stand until a few years ago. I was umming and awwing so my girlfriend surprised me.

Then she bought me a stand. Cheap £30 one and not great fo holding heavy bikes at funny angles, but still much easier being able to have the bit you're working on at a sensible height. My back is old and achy.

CARETAKER46

Thank you for your replies.

I have uploaded the pictures to see if you can identify the brakes, as my brakes are Disc type and with brake pads.

https://imageshack.com/i/plSP8TPUj
http://www.imageshack.us/i/pl8kM7rUj
https://imageshack.com/i/plspN2Kkj
https://imageshack.com/i/pnExs7ujj
https://imageshack.com/i/popPNHpZj

The tool i mentioned would this be ok to buy for bike maintenace.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... rmvSB=true

njee20

That's a 2004 S-Works Epic. You've got Shimano brakes, so mineral oil if you need it. Can't quite work out why you would though...

CARETAKER46

I thinking of Buying these tools from Ebay for my bikes, as most of the componets are Shimano and i will needs a bike maintenance stand to work on the bike or do you think i need to buy further extra tools.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... s&_sacat=0 £32.99

Which chain i would need for my bike, as the bike shop told me you need to change you chain,as the rest looks ok. I told him about the Bottom Bracket, so he told me just change the both BB and Chain.

I have uploaded better picture, this is if you want to see the images

https://www.imageshack.us/my/images

https://www.imageshack.us/i/pm9dQvEbj

njee20

You need any 9 speed chain. PC971 is decent, or KMC X9L. I'd be stunned if you don't need a cassette though, unless you've regularly changed the chain.

CARETAKER46

HI njee20
Thank you for your reply and the Information.

So i have the 9 cassette type, so i have total 27 gears.

I don't think the mechanic looked at it properly, as he put bike chain wear indicator and he told me you need to change the chain and he said your cassette looks ok, as they usually goes sharp and also on the chain ring, as this is the time you need to change these items.

I have never changed the chain nor the cassette for your information.

njee20

It's possible you just need a chain, but most likely you'll need a cassette too. If it's gone spiky you're far far too late.

CARETAKER46

Hi Njee20,
I will go from your recommendation , I will change the following Bottom Bracket Shimano Hollotech II , chain, Gear cable,as one end is frayed and cassette. I will grease the derailleur , forks, crank bracket and other area, where needed.

I do not if you can tell from the pictures I have uploaded on the images shack, if the cassette and chain rings is in goods condition or not, what do you think ?

Thanks again for your replies.

cooldad

If you are replacing the inner cable, replace the outer at the same time.

You don't grease any of those parts.

The mech can use a drop of light oil on the pivots and jockey wheel bearings. The forks a bit of lube- fork oil is best on the uppers and wipe clean. No idea what a crank bracket is but doubt it needs grease. Chain needs chain lube once the factory lube is gone.

It's impossible to check if a chain is stretched in pictures, but yours looks nasty - dirty and some thin grinding paste. Can't see a pic of the cassette but your big ring has a bent tooth. The whole lot looks a bit horrible to be honest.

CARETAKER46

Hi cooldad,
Thank you for your reply.

Crank i think it will be greased Spline end and where the Crank are meets, as this is where it will be greased when i watced the Videos on you tube park tools and other Shimano Bottom Bracket replacement.

Please see below the cassette image


cassette rings pictures
https://imageshack.com/i/pl9O9uO2j
https://imageshack.com/i/pmvuKyyMj
https://imageshack.com/i/plNOA08pj
https://imageshack.com/i/plgXVG5zj
https://imageshack.com/i/poIhUHLFj
https://imageshack.com/i/plBldInej
https://imageshack.com/i/plLEVwhKj


chain Ring picture link
https://imageshack.com/i/pnjrwaiMj
https://imageshack.com/i/pm9dQvEbj

arthur_scrimshaw

cooldad wrote:

I resisted a stand until a few years ago. I was umming and awwing so my girlfriend surprised me.

Then she bought me a stand. Cheap £30 one and not great fo holding heavy bikes at funny angles, but still much easier being able to have the bit you're working on at a sensible height. My back is old and achy.

So what was your girlfriends surprise? We all want to know?

Well ok, maybe just me.

cooldad

Well she just bought me a cheap stand, so she might have been disappointed.

CARETAKER46

Hi All,
I would just like to Update on my bike progress, as few weeks ago i cleaned my bike thoroughly.

I took it to few bike shops to see if they can see and assess the bike and 2 bikes shop said it is your bearing beneath the bottom bracket.

The other shop said the same it is your bearing.

The other 2 shops said it may be you bottom bracket and not your bearing.

You can see you can get different views to each shop you go to. However they told me you need to change all the bearing, not just one bearing, as you can buy the bearing kit, as there are 8 bearing on my bike. The reason i need to change the whole set bearing, as usually all the bearing goes at same time and the labour cost will be the same, so it is advisable to change it all at one go, which comes as set.

There is slight play on the rear wheel on the free hub, where the cassette goes, as this may need replacing, but needs to be checked and dismantle. However other bike shop you just only change it when it is broke, as they are not hard to replace the free hub.

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/mav ... 0wod5CMBzg

However further investigation it was the bearing, but when i tighten it up, the sound disappeared and the bike is not making the noise and the Bottom bracket was perfectly fine. This was under the bottom bracket, as it was tighten with Allen key and spanner.

Mechanic told me usually they do not come loose, but it must come loose for a reason ,so you should get it changed ASAP. but i have ridden the bike over a week, just commuting to work about 5 miles return and not had any problems yet.

He said the cassette looks fine, the 2nd crank ring it is advisable to change and change the chain, as the chain is still ok, but you can change it, if need to be.