Bird AM Zero or Ragley Blue Pig

King_Pin_Rich

So as title says really , got my full sus stolen a few weeks back and fancy a change to a hardtail for mucking about on. I always felt over biked at my local Bristol trail Ashton Court. On the odd trips to Wales the full sus was nice but I somehow missed the playfulness of a hardtail.

Rough Specs are :

Ragley Blue Pig 27.5
Frame: 4130 Chromoly steel
Forks: Manitou Mattoc Comp with TPC Damping + Doardo Air Spring, 150mm Travel, 15mm Thru-Axle, Tapered Steerer
Chainset: Shimano M677 SLX 2x, 38x24T
Shift Levers: Shimano SLX M670 2x 10 Spd
Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore M616
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT M786 10Spd Shadow Plus
Cassette: Shimano HG-50, 11-36T
Rims: WTB STI23, TCS, 27.5”
Front Hub: Novatec D811SB-15
Rear Hub: Novatec D882SB-X12, Thru-Axle
Front / Rear Tyre: WTB Vigilante / Trail Boss TCS 2.3
Front /Rear brake: Shimano SLX M675 180/160mm
Handlebars n Stem: Ragley
Headset: FSA No. 9 - Sealed bearing
Seatpost: Nukeproof OKLO AIR, 125mm Travel
Weight: 31lbs (14kg)
£1500

Bird Am Zero- GX

Frame: Bird Alu 6061
Forks: X Fusion Sweep Roughcut HLR 150mm
Chainset: Sram GX-1000 1x11
Rims: Race face Aeffect on Sram XD Hubs
Brakes: Sram Guide RS, 180/160
Front/Rear Tyres : Maxis High roller / Ardent 2.25
Bars n Stem: Race face Chester
Headset: Cane Creek 40
Seat post: Reverb Dropper
Weight: 12kg no pedals
£1675

Thoughts welcome guys n gals.

mattyfez

Depends on preference really

Shimano, 2x10, 14kg

SRAM, 1x11, 12kg

Based on that the Bird I would choose.

King_Pin_Rich

Never ridden a 1x11 but willing to give it a go.
14kg does seem heavy!

poah

the bird

cooldad

With the lifetime transferable warranty and local back up I'd take the Bird.

But I'm biased as they are friends of mine.

King_Pin_Rich

I think the Bird is winning.
Quite like the look of the Zero TR as well but the long(er) wheelbase and chainstays scare me!

cooldad

Give them a call and talk about it. Experienced riders and will give you proper advice, not sales spiel.

They want happy customers - the best salesmen.

muttley_109

I've ordered a Bird Zero TR in a fetching green. Just waiting for the call to say its ready so I can go get it. Should be a few weeks yet though, I cant wait!

BloggingFit

The longer stays on the TR makes it very stable and ultimately it covers ground very quickly. The AM is more of a fun, chuckable bike and a little more aggressive. That's not the say the TR isn't fun either, just a little more focused on covering ground but still really capable.

King_Pin_Rich

muttley_109 wrote:

I've ordered a Bird Zero TR in a fetching green. Just waiting for the call to say its ready so I can go get it. Should be a few weeks yet though, I cant wait!

Nice! Did you go for something not in stock then?
I'm being a dumbass too - where are the color options on the website? I can only see pics of the TR in grey.

muttley_109

Yeah the stock of medium to frames is due in early may. I also went for the nx-11 which is also due in early may. Here's some pics of the green frame http://www.birdmtb.com/green-zero-tr/

If you go to spec your bike, after you choose your groupset and frame size it should give you colour options.

poah

the bird AM is pretty nice

King_Pin_Rich

POAH wrote:

the bird AM is pretty nice

That's nice looking!

Trivial I know but I much prefer the look of the Rockshox fork over the X Fusion, especially with the black stanchions.