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Bird AM Zero or Ragley Blue Pig

King_Pin_RichKing_Pin_Rich Posts: 111
edited April 2016 in MTB buying advice
So as title says really , got my full sus stolen a few weeks back and fancy a change to a hardtail for mucking about on. I always felt over biked at my local Bristol trail Ashton Court. On the odd trips to Wales the full sus was nice but I somehow missed the playfulness of a hardtail.

Rough Specs are :

Ragley Blue Pig 27.5
Frame: 4130 Chromoly steel
Forks: Manitou Mattoc Comp with TPC Damping + Doardo Air Spring, 150mm Travel, 15mm Thru-Axle, Tapered Steerer
Chainset: Shimano M677 SLX 2x, 38x24T
Shift Levers: Shimano SLX M670 2x 10 Spd
Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore M616
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT M786 10Spd Shadow Plus
Cassette: Shimano HG-50, 11-36T
Rims: WTB STI23, TCS, 27.5”
Front Hub: Novatec D811SB-15
Rear Hub: Novatec D882SB-X12, Thru-Axle
Front / Rear Tyre: WTB Vigilante / Trail Boss TCS 2.3
Front /Rear brake: Shimano SLX M675 180/160mm
Handlebars n Stem: Ragley
Headset: FSA No. 9 - Sealed bearing
Seatpost: Nukeproof OKLO AIR, 125mm Travel
Weight: 31lbs (14kg)
£1500

Bird Am Zero- GX

Frame: Bird Alu 6061
Forks: X Fusion Sweep Roughcut HLR 150mm
Chainset: Sram GX-1000 1x11
Rims: Race face Aeffect on Sram XD Hubs
Brakes: Sram Guide RS, 180/160
Front/Rear Tyres : Maxis High roller / Ardent 2.25
Bars n Stem: Race face Chester
Headset: Cane Creek 40
Seat post: Reverb Dropper
Weight: 12kg no pedals
£1675

Thoughts welcome guys n gals.
Bird AM Zero (On Order :D )
Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 (stolen :evil: )
Cube Road SL

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  • mattyfezmattyfez Posts: 638
    Depends on preference really

    Shimano, 2x10, 14kg

    SRAM, 1x11, 12kg

    Based on that the Bird I would choose.
  • Never ridden a 1x11 but willing to give it a go.
    14kg does seem heavy!
    Bird AM Zero (On Order :D )
    Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 (stolen :evil: )
    Cube Road SL
  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    With the lifetime transferable warranty and local back up I'd take the Bird.

    But I'm biased as they are friends of mine.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • I think the Bird is winning.
    Quite like the look of the Zero TR as well but the long(er) wheelbase and chainstays scare me!
    Bird AM Zero (On Order :D )
    Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 (stolen :evil: )
    Cube Road SL
  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,601
    Give them a call and talk about it. Experienced riders and will give you proper advice, not sales spiel.

    They want happy customers - the best salesmen.
    I don't do smileys.

    There is no secret ingredient - Kung Fu Panda

    London Calling on Facebook

    Parktools
  • muttley_109muttley_109 Posts: 177
    I've ordered a Bird Zero TR in a fetching green. Just waiting for the call to say its ready so I can go get it. Should be a few weeks yet though, I cant wait!
    Cannondale CAAD 10
    Genesis Equilibrium Disc 10
    Bird Zero TR
  • BloggingFitBloggingFit Posts: 919
    The longer stays on the TR makes it very stable and ultimately it covers ground very quickly. The AM is more of a fun, chuckable bike and a little more aggressive. That's not the say the TR isn't fun either, just a little more focused on covering ground but still really capable.
    Bird Aeris : Trek Remedy 9.9 29er : Trek Procaliber 9.8 SL
  • I've ordered a Bird Zero TR in a fetching green. Just waiting for the call to say its ready so I can go get it. Should be a few weeks yet though, I cant wait!

    Nice! Did you go for something not in stock then?
    I'm being a dumbass too - where are the color options on the website? I can only see pics of the TR in grey.
    Bird AM Zero (On Order :D )
    Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 (stolen :evil: )
    Cube Road SL
  • muttley_109muttley_109 Posts: 177
    Yeah the stock of medium to frames is due in early may. I also went for the nx-11 which is also due in early may. Here's some pics of the green frame http://www.birdmtb.com/green-zero-tr/

    If you go to spec your bike, after you choose your groupset and frame size it should give you colour options.
    Cannondale CAAD 10
    Genesis Equilibrium Disc 10
    Bird Zero TR
  • POAH wrote:
    the bird AM is pretty nice

    p4pb13072939.jpg

    That's nice looking!

    Trivial I know but I much prefer the look of the Rockshox fork over the X Fusion, especially with the black stanchions.
    Bird AM Zero (On Order :D )
    Canyon Nerve AM 7.0 (stolen :evil: )
    Cube Road SL
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