Shed Security

Jay_Forme

Having recently read the Thread about securing your bike in garages, how do you secure your bike in a wooden shed?

I recently renewed my bike insurance and it requests a gold rated lock, which is fine, but what do I connect it to?

At the moment I have two 25kg concrete containers filled and the bike is chained up with them using a Kryptonite gold rated chain.

Would my Insurance company turn me down if I was to have the bike stolen as the drums are moveable?

markhewitt1978

Clearly a wooden shed has to be regarded as basically non-existent. It has limited weather proofing capabilities and that's about all.

If it has a concrete base then you're going to want a ground anchor, drilled directly into the ground. I think you're right that buckets won't do.

Bobbinogs

I would suggest actually talking to the insurance company. They can be a lot less prescriptive that folks may think. Explain your scenario and see if the person on the call can give advice. Ensure that you get the adviser's name and timestamp of the call.

I would normally suggest an anchor but 2 x 25kg concrete filled drums sounds up to the job.

drlodge

Look at the shed shackle http://securityforbikes.com/shed-shackle.php

Jay_Forme

Bobbinogs wrote:

I would suggest actually talking to the insurance company. They can be a lot less prescriptive that folks may think. Explain your scenario and see if the person on the call can give advice. Ensure that you get the adviser's name and timestamp of the call.

I would normally suggest an anchor but 2 x 25kg concrete filled drums sounds up to the job.

As daft as it sounds, I didn't even think about calling them and asking. :oops:

drlodge wrote:

Look at the shed shackle <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://securityforbikes.com/shed-shackle.php</span&gt;

I actually love the idea of that!

johnny25

I use a shed shackle fixed to my wooden shed and secure my bikes with a 13mm security chain and top of the range padlock. I have a number of additional security measures in place too.

A well built secure wooden shed is as good as any other bike storage solution.

Jay_Forme

What do you think of the Shed Shackle Johnny?

johnny25

Jay_Forme wrote:

What do you think of the Shed Shackle Johnny?

Well worth the investment without a doubt. Go for the bundle option - £150ish. Once secured it'll take someone very determined to cut through the metal loop that takes the chain. If properly secured, the shackle can't be removed without taking half the shed with it!

I'm confident as I can be that my bikes are safe in my shed. If I wasn't, they wouldn't be in the shed.

Jay_Forme

johnny25 wrote:

Jay_Forme wrote:

What do you think of the Shed Shackle Johnny?

Well worth the investment without a doubt. Go for the bundle option - £150ish. Once secured it'll take someone very determined to cut through the metal loop that takes the chain. If properly secured, the shackle can't be removed without taking half the shed with it!

I'm confident as I can be that my bikes are safe in my shed. If I wasn't, they wouldn't be in the shed.

Awesome. looks like ive found my payday purchase.

fenix

I'd focus on not letting people know the bike is there = so strava or garmin connect - lock the privacy. Don't let strangers follow you on it. Don't put up pics of the bike on FB or twitter or whatever.

If people know a good bike is there - they will get at it.

Is a metal shed an option ?

Jay_Forme

Fenix wrote:

I'd focus on not letting people know the bike is there = so strava or garmin connect - lock the privacy. Don't let strangers follow you on it. Don't put up pics of the bike on FB or twitter or whatever.

If people know a good bike is there - they will get at it.

Is a metal shed an option ?

Strava and Garmin are on full lock down, only have a few friends on there and that's it.

I don't use FB or twitter, I am on Instagram but that's set to private.

I would love a Metal Shed but the house came with a brand new shed (its a new build house) so the Mrs is having none of it.

fenix

Metal shed INSIDE the wooden one. She'll never know... ;-)

Jay_Forme

Having spoke to the insurance company this morning, they have said that as long as the shed is up to scratch and the door is locked that's all they require.
Having any form of ground anchor/chain/lock inside is a bonus.

so it would appear that the 2 drums of concrete and chain are fine.

Thanks for the help guys.

Bobbinogs

Good stuff, make sure you write the name of the person you spoke to and the timestamp onto the policy as it will give any future case credibility, even if the advice you have been given is technically incorrect.

Also check carefully to make sure that future policy renewals do not have any gotchas in the small print, like a change of caveats for cover, etc., as this is one area where small changes can make a big difference. I do personally think the 2x25kg drums and a gold standard lock is as good as it gets but just be wary of who can see what when you are putting the bike into/or out of the shed.

Happy days.

Jay_Forme

Bobbinogs wrote:

Good stuff, make sure you write the name of the person you spoke to and the timestamp onto the policy as it will give any future case credibility, even if the advice you have been given is technically incorrect.

Also check carefully to make sure that future policy renewals do not have any gotchas in the small print, like a change of caveats for cover, etc., as this is one area where small changes can make a big difference. I do personally think the 2x25kg drums and a gold standard lock is as good as it gets but just be wary of who can see what when you are putting the bike into/or out of the shed.

Happy days.

I wrote down the name of the person on the back of the insurance print out and asked them to log it which she did so fingers crossed its covered all bases.

luckily enough the only entrance into my garden is via a gate next to my house, other than that its over the neighbours fences which is hard work (believe me, I kicked a ball over last weekend and had to retrieve it as they was away).
This Gate also has a decent lock, its also a nice quite cul de sac so never any thru cars.

molteni_man

Can I recommend the Maplins PIR Alarm as a very useful £21 spent in deterring any would be thief. This is a battery operated small alarm which gives a very very loud ear piercing alarm sound should shed/ garage be broken in to.
I have had it set up for 9 months now and battery still fine. I set it off by accident recently and it really hurt my ear drums. We can hear it sounding from our bedroom which is at the front of the house with all doors/ windows shut.
I have ground anchors etc but this is a further deterrent at a v cheap price and v easy to set up. Here,s the link to Maplins website.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/pir-intruder- ... 0wod5jkPLg

Hope helpful.

Garry H

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

fenix

You can get that maplin alarm a lot cheaper on eBay but it's good.

If you want more products you can get alarms that will alert you on your phone assuming your wifi reaches the shed. And the sirens will go off too.

Bobbinogs

Garry H wrote:

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

mmm, although that sounds like a paltry security measure.

homers_double

Bobbinogs wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

mmm, although that sounds like a poultry security measure.

FTFY.

Garry H

homers double wrote:

Bobbinogs wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

mmm, although that sounds like a poultry security measure.

FTFY.

10/10

briantrumpet

homers double wrote:

Bobbinogs wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

mmm, although that sounds like a poultry security measure.

FTFY.

On the plus side, if the bike does get stolen, you can expect the beak to take a keen interest.

Bobbinogs

homers double wrote:

Bobbinogs wrote:

Garry H wrote:

Another cheapish anti theft trick is to attach chicken wire to the inside.

mmm, although that sounds like a poultry security measure.

FTFY.

Err, didn't get the "sounds like" bit then

wishitwasallflat

Stay on topic please shed security not coop.

Garry H

Home Alone style shenanigans