11sp cassettes- HOW MUCH?

father_jack
father_jack Posts: 3,509
edited April 2016 in Commuting chat
Just looking at replacement bike for the 9sp tourer, maybe a cyclo cross should be suitable, checking them out they seem to have 11 sp cassttes- and £75 each wtf :roll:
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  • dork_knight
    dork_knight Posts: 405
    Not sure what you're looking at (manufacturer and model) but there's nothing wrong with a 105 cassette;
    https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-10 ... 0wodVyoJKQ
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  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    SRAM XG1150, 10-42T, 11-SPD

    with the boardman cx team
    Say... That's a nice bike..
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  • dork_knight
    dork_knight Posts: 405
    Yep, that's a fair few pounds worth.

    Any third parties that make an alternative?
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,255
    Dork Knight wrote:
    Yep, that's a fair few pounds worth.

    Any third parties that make an alternative?
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  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    hahahaha

    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.SRAM-Eagle-XG-1 ... _91964.htm
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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Father Jack wrote:
    Just looking at replacement bike for the 9sp tourer, maybe a cyclo cross should be suitable, checking them out they seem to have 11 sp cassttes- and £75 each wtf :roll:

    Well an 11sp cassette won't be much good to you with a 9sp bike? Or is that orthogonal to the situation?
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    What do you not understand "looking at replacement bike"
    Say... That's a nice bike..
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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-105-580 ... -cassette/ £25 . Not a bad price at all.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,798
    Father Jack wrote:
    hahahaha

    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.SRAM-Eagle-XG-1 ... _91964.htm
    Is that what they mean by the saying less is more? You do away with the complication of a front mech and multiple chainrings to go 1x11 and they charge you lots more money for the privilege.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    The SRAM XG cassettes are obscene, and it's only so you can have a 10T rather than an 11. Stick a normal wheel on there and you can use any 11speed cassette, but if you want a big range you're stuck with shimano XT as the cheapest at about £50.
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  • Snakebite the 2nd
    Snakebite the 2nd Posts: 452
    Is 11 speed a thing now then?

    I'm still on 9 and only just realised they had gone to 10 speed!


    Of course back in my day all good racers were 10-speed.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Snakebite the 2nd wrote:
    Is 11 speed a thing now then?

    Yes - it's so you can put an 11 tooth on without messing up the gears you actually need.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,798
    Snakebite the 2nd wrote:
    Of course back in my day all good racers were 10-speed.
    I still miss my 10 speed Falcon that got nicked from outside a shop on Wimbledon Broadway. :cry:
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    I'll never go 11... it's a prime number, how can you make half gears if you are on 11? You can make half gears with 10 speed and 1/3 of a gear with 9 speed, that gets you up the mountains quicker... :roll:
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I'll never go 11... it's a prime number, how can you make half gears if you are on 11? You can make half gears with 10 speed and 1/3 of a gear with 9 speed, that gets you up the mountains quicker... :roll:
    Yeah, but 11 speed gets you closer to the holy grail that is 12 speed. sixths, quarters, thirds, halves. Think of all the free speed.
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  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    Reason why I've gone single speed.

    What sucks if like me, you will use the same 3 gears on a 11 speed, you wear those out quick, and need to replace the whole lot.

    Something like this will be plenty, with a mega range sprocket

    http://www.discountbicycles.co.uk/acces ... 306434.jpg
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    dhope wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I'll never go 11... it's a prime number, how can you make half gears if you are on 11? You can make half gears with 10 speed and 1/3 of a gear with 9 speed, that gets you up the mountains quicker... :roll:
    Yeah, but 11 speed gets you closer to the holy grail that is 12 speed. sixths, quarters, thirds, halves. Think of all the free speed.

    I will upgrade to 12 speed, but not to 11... I will jump straight from 9 to 12 gaining 33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Rolf F wrote:
    Snakebite the 2nd wrote:
    Is 11 speed a thing now then?

    Yes - it's so you can put an 11 tooth on without messing up the gears you actually need.

    ha! Yes. Considering I run 12-30 in 10 speed I've thought about upgrading to 11 speed but given the available combinations of cassettes it would effectively just mean adding an 11T cog which I won't use, and then I'm back to having a 10 speed drivetrain again!
  • Snakebite the 2nd
    Snakebite the 2nd Posts: 452
    The first mountain bike I bought had a seven speed block.

    I thought I was the dog's danglies with that, and resisted moving to eight because I didn't think I'd ever use the extra one!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Obligatory.

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,255
    Snakebite the 2nd wrote:
    Is 11 speed a thing now then?

    I'm still on 9 and only just realised they had gone to 10 speed!


    Of course back in my day all good racers were 10-speed.
    That would be 2x5, obviously.
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  • Wirral_paul
    Wirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    Father Jack wrote:
    SRAM XG1150, 10-42T, 11-SPD

    with the boardman cx team

    I've got SRAM 1x11 on my full suspension Whyte - love it!! The XG1150 cassette fits only on an XD driver body - so at the moment at least you're limited to Sram cassettes.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/sram-xd-driver-body-explained-44409/
  • Snakebite the 2nd
    Snakebite the 2nd Posts: 452
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Snakebite the 2nd wrote:
    Is 11 speed a thing now then?

    I'm still on 9 and only just realised they had gone to 10 speed!


    Of course back in my day all good racers were 10-speed.
    That would be 2x5, obviously.

    Yes, just as the good lord intended.
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    Am I right in thinking 11 speed Shimano cassettes work with 11 speed Campag stuff?? Am sure I saw some posh road bike kitted out with SR and a DA block!
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    SecretSam wrote:
    Am I right in thinking 11 speed Shimano cassettes work with 11 speed Campag stuff?? Am sure I saw some posh road bike kitted out with SR and a DA block!

    Yes, the width of the cassette is only 0.5 mm different or if you prefer 0.05 mm difference per sprocket, which is well within the drivetrain tolerance
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