Is there a list of the legendary climbs to do in France?

daniel_b

Does anyone have, or has anyone seen a list of the legendary (I don't want to use the word iconic...) climbs specifically those that have featured in Le Tour, but also any one day races as well I guess?

Basically, one day I want to arrange to go over to France for a week or so, so am looking for a map of where all, or the best climbs are, and then I can use that to help me decide where to base myself out of.

marcusjb

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-Cyclin ... 0711234825

His books are generally good and I am guessing he'll have done his research on the ones that have been used the most etc. (Tourmalet being used more than any other by quite some way).

Doesn't help with the one day and smaller races, which means that areas like Cevennes are probably under-represented in the book.

smokey_bacon

This should get you started...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... _de_France

daniel_b

This forum is amazing eh - thanks chaps.

4 minutes for two VERY useful replies :-)

john_wr

How about this list from another thread, which gives you the open and closed passes.

http://www.sport-passion.fr/parcours/etat-cols.php

John.

robbo2011

If you can understand German, this site is pretty useful, not just for France but for the whole of the region

http://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/

alex222

Worth having a look at Col Collective for some great videos on some of the big climbs. In addition the Inner Ring blog has a list with detailed commentary on lots of the famous climbs
http://thecolcollective.com/
http://inrng.com/roads/

pblakeney

A decision has to be made first.
Alps or Pyrenees.

marcusjb

The Inner Ring list is good. It features some climbs you may never have heard of, but are majorly important in the history of the sport.

I used it when planning a fast tour this summer and look forward to visiting Velocio's memorial and bagging the first ever 1000m Col featured on the Tour (in the first edition in 1903).

http://inrng.com/2013/02/roads-to-ride- ... epublique/

Hoping to also manage, from their list, Mont Ventoux, Mont Aigoual and at least look at Puy de Dôme (depending on what time I get there, I might be able to sneak up it if the train isn't running etc.!).

cc78

re lists, this is excellent

http://www.cycling-challenge.com/100-cy ... lpe-dhuez/

daniel_b

PBlakeney wrote:

A decision has to be made first.
Alps or Pyrenees.

Well indeed, this is where my knowledge is lacking, what do the masses feel?
I was erring towards Pyrenees.

Thanks for all of the other replies, plenty of reading and research to be done there over this weekend 8)

phreak

Don't take the Tour as gospel as to whether a climb is a good one. For instance, were you to base yourself in Bourg d'Oisans the obvious option would be to ride up Alps d'Huez, but in my opinion, the better climb is up to Villard Notre Dame, which is a stunner but because of the nature of the climb has never been used in a race (and will never likely be).

ugo.santalucia

phreak wrote:

Don't take the Tour as gospel as to whether a climb is a good one. For instance, were you to base yourself in Bourg d'Oisans the obvious option would be to ride up Alps d'Huez, but in my opinion, the better climb is up to Villard Notre Dame, which is a stunner but because of the nature of the climb has never been used in a race (and will never likely be).

Very true... same applies to the Giro: when they visit the north west, they always go up to Cervinia, which is a crap climb, but the region is dotted with gems, too narrow for a carovane of vehicles to get through.

fenix

Just googling Villard Notre Dame fpr pictures makes me go all tingly.... That looks lovely.

phreak

Fenix wrote:

Just googling Villard Notre Dame fpr pictures makes me go all tingly.... That looks lovely.

It's a belter, just make sure you take a light so you can see in the tunnels

adr82

phreak wrote:

Don't take the Tour as gospel as to whether a climb is a good one. For instance, were you to base yourself in Bourg d'Oisans the obvious option would be to ride up Alps d'Huez, but in my opinion, the better climb is up to Villard Notre Dame, which is a stunner but because of the nature of the climb has never been used in a race (and will never likely be).

I didn't manage to do that one when I was over last year, sounded great but just didn't have time. From what I remember you can ride it as the first part of a loop that takes you back over to the Ornon road somewhere, did you do it that way or just up and back?

Taking the cliff road from the (I think) 5th hairpin on Alpe d'Huez along towards the Sarenne is well worth doing as well, you're high up on the opposite side of the valley from the Notre Dame road and the views are amazing.

There was another less popular climb nearby that I did do, up to a tiny village called Oulles across the valley from the Alpe. Not too long but steep the whole way. Extremely quiet as well, I think I saw about 3 other cyclists and two cars on the whole way up+down. And afterwards if you're still feeling good you can just head on up the much easier Col d'Ornon when you reach the bottom of the descent.

pblakeney

Daniel B wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

A decision has to be made first.
Alps or Pyrenees.

Well indeed, this is where my knowledge is lacking, what do the masses feel?
I was erring towards Pyrenees.

Thanks for all of the other replies, plenty of reading and research to be done there over this weekend 8)

I have no personal experience to help, yet. I picked to do the Pyrenees this year.
From what I understand, the Alps are higher, longer and steadier. The Pyrenees has more variety of gradient. But that will no doubt be a generalisation.

phreak

adr82 wrote:

phreak wrote:

Don't take the Tour as gospel as to whether a climb is a good one. For instance, were you to base yourself in Bourg d'Oisans the obvious option would be to ride up Alps d'Huez, but in my opinion, the better climb is up to Villard Notre Dame, which is a stunner but because of the nature of the climb has never been used in a race (and will never likely be).

I didn't manage to do that one when I was over last year, sounded great but just didn't have time. From what I remember you can ride it as the first part of a loop that takes you back over to the Ornon road somewhere, did you do it that way or just up and back?

Taking the cliff road from the (I think) 5th hairpin on Alpe d'Huez along towards the Sarenne is well worth doing as well, you're high up on the opposite side of the valley from the Notre Dame road and the views are amazing.

There was another less popular climb nearby that I did do, up to a tiny village called Oulles across the valley from the Alpe. Not too long but steep the whole way. Extremely quiet as well, I think I saw about 3 other cyclists and two cars on the whole way up+down. And afterwards if you're still feeling good you can just head on up the much easier Col d'Ornon when you reach the bottom of the descent.

I just went straight up and down. There's a dirt track that apparently takes you back round to the Ornon road but it was a short trip so we went straight back down. Speaking of the Col d'Ornon, if you head up and over it (from Bourg), you also get to another nice climb that the Tour hasn't been near called the Parquetout. It's like a shorter version of the Mortirolo in terms of both gradient and view.