Shimano chainrings - why so expensive?
skeetam
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Why are replacement chainrings so expensive when compared to the price of a full chrankset?
If you're looking to replace a Shimano 105 outer chainring on a new 4 bolt crank the chain ring is £53.99 and a new full crankset is £72.99. Ultegra is similar, outer chainring is £99.99 and a full crankset is £119.99. It appears Shimano are making the spider, crank arms and inner ring for approximately £20.
What does everyone on BR do, just take it on the chin and pay or buy other makes?
If you're looking to replace a Shimano 105 outer chainring on a new 4 bolt crank the chain ring is £53.99 and a new full crankset is £72.99. Ultegra is similar, outer chainring is £99.99 and a full crankset is £119.99. It appears Shimano are making the spider, crank arms and inner ring for approximately £20.
What does everyone on BR do, just take it on the chin and pay or buy other makes?
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SkeetAM wrote:Why are replacement chainrings so expensive when compared to the price of a full chrankset?
If you're looking to replace a Shimano 105 outer chainring on a new 4 bolt crank the chain ring is £53.99 and a new full crankset is £72.99. Ultegra is similar, outer chainring is £99.99 and a full crankset is £119.99. It appears Shimano are making the spider, crank arms and inner ring for approximately £20.
What does everyone on BR do, just take it on the chin and pay or buy other makes?
Is that the RRP for the chainring and the chainset?0 -
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It's called "Strategic Pricing" and it's based on choosing a price at which Price x Number of People who'll Pay is a maximum. The old-fashioned Cost + Markup is a relic of a bygone age. If you don't want Shimano original rings, there are lots of alternatives.Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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whoof wrote:
"replace a Shimano 105 outer chainring on a new 4 bolt crank"
Can't see any on there that would do the job...
Luckily for me I have the older 5 bolt Shimano chainsets so a) OEM parts are cheap enough, and b) aftermarket kit from Spa / TA / Stronglight can also be used.
AFAIK at the moment if you have the newer 4 arm Shimano chainsets, you're tied in to (expensive) Shimano replacement rings. Maybe in time somebody will do some cheaper aftermarket stuff??0 -
Rodrego Hernandez wrote:SkeetAM wrote:Why are replacement chainrings so expensive when compared to the price of a full chrankset?
If you're looking to replace a Shimano 105 outer chainring on a new 4 bolt crank the chain ring is £53.99 and a new full crankset is £72.99. Ultegra is similar, outer chainring is £99.99 and a full crankset is £119.99. It appears Shimano are making the spider, crank arms and inner ring for approximately £20.
What does everyone on BR do, just take it on the chin and pay or buy other makes?
Is that the RRP for the chainring and the chainset?
No, they're not the RRP. They're real prices on the 'wild web'. Obviously, it sounds like good business to do this but if you bought the full chrankset for the chainrings you'd have lots of crank arms in your garage. I suppose you could sell the left ones to Stages
Anyone have any experience of using chainrings from the likes of 'TA Specialties' or 'Stronglight', longevity, etc.?0 -
Just be thankful you aren't trapped within the Cannondale BB30A / SiSL ecosystem, without the possibility of parole!0
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TBF they are consistent. Replacing rims on Shimano factory wheels rarely makes any economic sense either.
Yes, the Cannondale SiSL chainset, although a thing of beauty, I suspect is only for the very deep of wallet...0 -
What about Sram rival 11 speed , no compatible chainrings as far as my lbs said so, I must be the only one who downgrades rather than upgrades and went for apex , apparently you can use "aftermarket chainrings on these.Any one want to buy a set of rival crank arms ?
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There are these http://specialites-ta.com/plateaux/road ... nring.html
Don't know how they compare on price/performance re. Shimano.0 -
keef66 wrote:
Yes, the Cannondale SiSL chainset, although a thing of beauty, I suspect is only for the very deep of wallet...
Tell me about it! Every bike I have bought I have bought more or less on a whim. I really should do some homework next time.
Although my BB30A has been faultless in the noise department (2 years of cycling all year around, in all conditions, still on the original bearings), the lack of comparability and convertability* is frustrating, and the new chainrings very expensive.
* I think a "proper" aftermarket BB30A --> shimano adaptor is now available; there wasn't when I got the bike, due to the "A" part of the "BB30A" moniker - i.e. asymmetrical. The whole thing is a pain in the bum. My next bike will be back to good old Shimano hollowtech which I know and love.0 -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182028308806? ... EBIDX%3AITSecteur wrote:Just be thankful you aren't trapped within the Cannondale BB30A / SiSL ecosystem, without the possibility of parole!
Did you need new ones?My blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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bendertherobot wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182028308806? ... EBIDX%3AITSecteur wrote:Just be thankful you aren't trapped within the Cannondale BB30A / SiSL ecosystem, without the possibility of parole!
Did you need new ones?
Hi, thank for taking the time to search and post this - very kind!
However I think I (accidentally) misinformed you - mine is the SI system, and is this one (though mine is a compact);
http://www.cannondalespares.com/Cannond ... il/3-42225
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These might be them (hard to buy just the chainrings alone it seems, without ordering via a dealer and paying top whack)
http://qwertycycles.co.uk/products/fsa- ... -chainsets
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Unfortunately, yes. You can go the route of buying a complete crankset, keep or sell the other ring and try selling the arms on ebay or ??. A few people out there wanting to buy one arm only. You may even break even if you're lucky. Other brands of rings are just as durable and cheaper but haven't found any that shift quite as good as the ramped Shimano ones. Not a huge difference mind you but noticeable.SkeetAM wrote:What does everyone on BR do, just take it on the chin and pay or buy other makes?0 -
Secteur wrote:These might be them (hard to buy just the chainrings alone it seems, without ordering via a dealer and paying top whack)
http://qwertycycles.co.uk/products/fsa- ... -chainsets
£75
These indeed are they, but any 5 arm 110 BCD chainring will fit your Si, SiSL or SiSL2 (if you retrofit the old-style spider). You're certainly not married to the stock FSA rings. BOR or Praxis works are light, prettier, shift better and about the usual price for good chainrings. Old Ultegra rings (6500) work pretty well, too, and if you can find them the old Cannondale Mk4 and 5 are quite cool, too.0 -
They've always been the same. At least since the early 90's. Bin the chainset and buy a new one. Which is definitely counterproductive0
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MisterMuncher wrote:These indeed are they, but any 5 arm 110 BCD chainring will fit your Si, SiSL or SiSL2 (if you retrofit the old-style spider). You're certainly not married to the stock FSA rings. BOR or Praxis works are light, prettier, shift better and about the usual price for good chainrings. Old Ultegra rings (6500) work pretty well, too, and if you can find them the old Cannondale Mk4 and 5 are quite cool, too.
Thanks for this - I never considered / thought possible to do this.
Going to look into it now, as my chainrings are approaching needing replaced.0 -
One of the best things about the Si setup is that it is so modular. Before the current round of Shimano and Campagnolo cranks, there weren't many others that allowed a change from compact to full.0
