How to steal a country
orraloon
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Get a rabble of xenophobes, closet racists and assorted swivel eyed loons to bang on relentlessly that all the evils of the world aka the 21st century are the fault of ‘Brussels’. Tick.
Once the loonies have managed to move the dial enough, sideline them. Tick. Last year, Farrago all over the media, this year almost silent.
Get the right wing media to drip a constant stream of ½ truths and misinformation. Tick.
Repeat some fatuous straplines ad nauseam until the Great British Public can recall them. Tick. ‘We want to decide and make our own laws’; hey Mr vox pop fat bloke in the street clutching your burger n fries, when did you ever decide your own laws?
Minimise and misdirect the negatives. Tick. Usually cutting off trade links in this increasingly globalised world of trade blocs is imposed not voluntary, such as UN imposed trade sanctions on deemed miscreant nations like North Korea. Rebrand having no trade deals as ‘the freedom to find and make our own trade deals’.
Get a weak willed ninny of a party leader to paint himself into a corner on promising a referendum. Looking at you Shiny Faced Dave. Doesn’t matter what ‘renegotiated terms’ SFD achieves, greet his ‘deal’ with concerted howls of derision. Tick.
Bully the BBC (charter review anyone?) into such a cowed state of subservience that all statements of fact, e.g. SFD announces date of referendum must for the sake of ‘balance’ be accompanied by negative opinion, ‘anti EU campaigner says…’. Tick.
Assemble a crew of self serving political chancers who fancy grabbing power in the brave new world of isolationist Britain. Tick. Hello there Boris, fancy seeing you here.
Wrap yourselves in the Union flag at every opportunity and let leash every anti European cliche you can think of or make up. Repeat for 4 months.
Take every opportunity to knock anything which could be deemed in any way positive about the rest of Europe, no matter how trivial. Wait for the agitation that the Eurovision Song Contest should not be shown on BBC as ‘inappropriate in the run up…’. And England will have probably been knocked out of the football Euros by those pesky foreigners.
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Carve up the spoils in a small cold isolated country of England plus some semi attached for now bits with Jocks n Taffs etc. You aren’t bothered that the country is xxxxed, you are a politician of independent means with a fat taxpayer funded salary, expenses and payoff. Carry on giving tax breaks to the well off while pressing down on the poor masses. There seem to more of them, surprisingly; better get hold of some water cannon, tick. Immigration of these brown people seems to have carried on as well somehow. And there seem to be fewer better paid jobs around…
Inward investment slows to a trickle. Internationals like the car companies invest in E Europe instead of the isolated UK. Inside the large EU trade bloc the UK used to be an attractive option with its ‘flexible’ working practices, i.e. easier to fire employees than in Germany or France and not as lazy as those southern Europeans. Bye bye Nissan Sunderland, Toyota Derby, Honda Swindon, BMW Oxford, your days are numbered.
Have a fat bloke in a suit with ‘interesting’ hair as your revered leader, and let him ‘punch above his weight’ by possessing nuclear weapons. Welcome to the Democratic People's’ Kingdom of Kim Jong Bo.
And no it wasn’t a dream and no I wasn’t asleep.
Once the loonies have managed to move the dial enough, sideline them. Tick. Last year, Farrago all over the media, this year almost silent.
Get the right wing media to drip a constant stream of ½ truths and misinformation. Tick.
Repeat some fatuous straplines ad nauseam until the Great British Public can recall them. Tick. ‘We want to decide and make our own laws’; hey Mr vox pop fat bloke in the street clutching your burger n fries, when did you ever decide your own laws?
Minimise and misdirect the negatives. Tick. Usually cutting off trade links in this increasingly globalised world of trade blocs is imposed not voluntary, such as UN imposed trade sanctions on deemed miscreant nations like North Korea. Rebrand having no trade deals as ‘the freedom to find and make our own trade deals’.
Get a weak willed ninny of a party leader to paint himself into a corner on promising a referendum. Looking at you Shiny Faced Dave. Doesn’t matter what ‘renegotiated terms’ SFD achieves, greet his ‘deal’ with concerted howls of derision. Tick.
Bully the BBC (charter review anyone?) into such a cowed state of subservience that all statements of fact, e.g. SFD announces date of referendum must for the sake of ‘balance’ be accompanied by negative opinion, ‘anti EU campaigner says…’. Tick.
Assemble a crew of self serving political chancers who fancy grabbing power in the brave new world of isolationist Britain. Tick. Hello there Boris, fancy seeing you here.
Wrap yourselves in the Union flag at every opportunity and let leash every anti European cliche you can think of or make up. Repeat for 4 months.
Take every opportunity to knock anything which could be deemed in any way positive about the rest of Europe, no matter how trivial. Wait for the agitation that the Eurovision Song Contest should not be shown on BBC as ‘inappropriate in the run up…’. And England will have probably been knocked out of the football Euros by those pesky foreigners.
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Carve up the spoils in a small cold isolated country of England plus some semi attached for now bits with Jocks n Taffs etc. You aren’t bothered that the country is xxxxed, you are a politician of independent means with a fat taxpayer funded salary, expenses and payoff. Carry on giving tax breaks to the well off while pressing down on the poor masses. There seem to more of them, surprisingly; better get hold of some water cannon, tick. Immigration of these brown people seems to have carried on as well somehow. And there seem to be fewer better paid jobs around…
Inward investment slows to a trickle. Internationals like the car companies invest in E Europe instead of the isolated UK. Inside the large EU trade bloc the UK used to be an attractive option with its ‘flexible’ working practices, i.e. easier to fire employees than in Germany or France and not as lazy as those southern Europeans. Bye bye Nissan Sunderland, Toyota Derby, Honda Swindon, BMW Oxford, your days are numbered.
Have a fat bloke in a suit with ‘interesting’ hair as your revered leader, and let him ‘punch above his weight’ by possessing nuclear weapons. Welcome to the Democratic People's’ Kingdom of Kim Jong Bo.
And no it wasn’t a dream and no I wasn’t asleep.
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orraloon wrote:Get a rabble of xenophobes, closet racists and assorted swivel eyed loons to bang on relentlessly that all the evils of the world aka the 21st century are the fault of ‘Brussels’. Tick.
Once the loonies have managed to move the dial enough, sideline them. Tick. Last year, Farrago all over the media, this year almost silent.
Get the right wing media to drip a constant stream of ½ truths and misinformation. Tick.
Repeat some fatuous straplines ad nauseam until the Great British Public can recall them. Tick. ‘We want to decide and make our own laws’; hey Mr vox pop fat bloke in the street clutching your burger n fries, when did you ever decide your own laws?
Minimise and misdirect the negatives. Tick. Usually cutting off trade links in this increasingly globalised world of trade blocs is imposed not voluntary, such as UN imposed trade sanctions on deemed miscreant nations like North Korea. Rebrand having no trade deals as ‘the freedom to find and make our own trade deals’.
Get a weak willed ninny of a party leader to paint himself into a corner on promising a referendum. Looking at you Shiny Faced Dave. Doesn’t matter what ‘renegotiated terms’ SFD achieves, greet his ‘deal’ with concerted howls of derision. Tick.
Bully the BBC (charter review anyone?) into such a cowed state of subservience that all statements of fact, e.g. SFD announces date of referendum must for the sake of ‘balance’ be accompanied by negative opinion, ‘anti EU campaigner says…’. Tick.
Assemble a crew of self serving political chancers who fancy grabbing power in the brave new world of isolationist Britain. Tick. Hello there Boris, fancy seeing you here.
Wrap yourselves in the Union flag at every opportunity and let leash every anti European cliche you can think of or make up. Repeat for 4 months.
Take every opportunity to knock anything which could be deemed in any way positive about the rest of Europe, no matter how trivial. Wait for the agitation that the Eurovision Song Contest should not be shown on BBC as ‘inappropriate in the run up…’. And England will have probably been knocked out of the football Euros by those pesky foreigners.
….
Carve up the spoils in a small cold isolated country of England plus some semi attached for now bits with Jocks n Taffs etc. You aren’t bothered that the country is xxxxed, you are a politician of independent means with a fat taxpayer funded salary, expenses and payoff. Carry on giving tax breaks to the well off while pressing down on the poor masses. There seem to more of them, surprisingly; better get hold of some water cannon, tick. Immigration of these brown people seems to have carried on as well somehow. And there seem to be fewer better paid jobs around…
Inward investment slows to a trickle. Internationals like the car companies invest in E Europe instead of the isolated UK. Inside the large EU trade bloc the UK used to be an attractive option with its ‘flexible’ working practices, i.e. easier to fire employees than in Germany or France and not as lazy as those southern Europeans. Bye bye Nissan Sunderland, Toyota Derby, Honda Swindon, BMW Oxford, your days are numbered.
Have a fat bloke in a suit with ‘interesting’ hair as your revered leader, and let him ‘punch above his weight’ by possessing nuclear weapons. Welcome to the Democratic People's’ Kingdom of Kim Jong Bo.
And no it wasn’t a dream and no I wasn’t asleep.
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Nobody objects to having a trading block - if that is what this is about there wouldn't be an argument. That doesn't mean the world has to be carved up into super states increasingly divorced from democracy.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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tis crazy how such a self serving bufoon, can get this far.. the age of celebrity over substance
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
so is this the UK or the US?
just read the last bit."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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nicklouse wrote:so is this the UK or the US?
just read the last bit.
Thomas Jefferson is credited with saying “The government you elect is government you deserve.” H.L. Mencken said the same thing, but better: "People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard."“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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I agree, orraloon. It's like the supporters of combover Trump claiming they will make America 'great' again. How exactly?
I have lived in the UK for 20 years and have never heard a cogent set of arguments as to why Britain should leave the EU.
It has mainly been bile emanating from the Daily Mail - in between its features on holidaying in or buying a second home in France.
The pin stripe suit brigade who want to leave the EU will not make Britain more democratic. They won't be interested in the minimum wage or any other measures of fairness. And in terms of science and technology it will put Britain in the slow lane. The wealthy paying less tax and the rest on low wage, low skill jobs is a likely vision for life af0 -
Some may argue that it is easier to sell a country rather than steal it, albeit down the river.
1. Travel to Lisbon
2. Sign on dotted line.
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I live and run a business in France.
The French economy is a slow motion train crash.
Massive social charges and draconian labour laws mean companies cannot afford / are too scared to employ people.
Unemployment goes ever upwards - 11%. UK is 5%.
Debt increasing. The high quality social and health services degrading.
Unions block any and every attempt at reform.
France picks and chooses the EU laws that it wants and ignores those that it doesn't really like.
This is what the EU looks like close up.
Personally I would advise against it.0 -
bernithebiker wrote:I live and run a business in France.
The French economy is a slow motion train crash.
Massive social charges and draconian labour laws mean companies cannot afford / are too scared to employ people.
Unemployment goes ever upwards - 11%. UK is 5%.
Debt increasing. The high quality social and health services degrading.
Unions block any and every attempt at reform.
France picks and chooses the EU laws that it wants and ignores those that it doesn't really like.
This is what the EU looks like close up.
Personally I would advise against it.
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Alex99 wrote:bernithebiker wrote:France picks and chooses the EU laws that it wants and ignores those that it doesn't really like.
Is the story the same across other EU nations?
Nope, the Brits follow slavishly every EU law put out there then whinge about it. The others? I'd say most do a France, pick and mix buffet stylee.0 -
bernithebiker wrote:I live and run a business in France.
The French economy is a slow motion train crash.
Massive social charges and draconian labour laws mean companies cannot afford / are too scared to employ people.
Unemployment goes ever upwards - 11%. UK is 5%.
Debt increasing. The high quality social and health services degrading.
Unions block any and every attempt at reform.
France picks and chooses the EU laws that it wants and ignores those that it doesn't really like.
This is what the EU looks like close up.
Personally I would advise against it.
er, no, that's what france looks like close up, you said it yourself "France picks and chooses the EU laws that it wants and ignores those that it doesn't really like.", france's problems are entirely of it's own making, nothing to do with the eu
on the plus side, lovely country, good people, great crusty bread, cheese, and of course champagne, i can forgive them a lot for that, i also employ people in france (and uk and other countries), they all work hard
figures for productivity suggest the uk could learn a thing or two from france...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/icp/inter ... eb-15.html
...but i agree with you that it's a train wreck, they need to starting fixing fundamental problems because it can get a lot worse
countries implement eu law as they like, which is why uk employee protection is so much weaker in the uk than some other eu countries
the downside is that the uk, like the usa, is in a race to the bottom, the middle classes are the biggest losers, the less well off better get used to that for the rest of their lives, and the wealth gap is beyond obscene
the uk government takes eu regulations and creates problems, perhaps deliberately, but more likely out of idiocy, you do not need to listen long to most politicians to see that they're either malicious or idiotic (or sometimes both)my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
You cannot steal what is already your own.0
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countries implement eu law as they like, which is why uk employee protection is so much weaker in the uk than some other eu countries
Why have EU law then? Since when and how can laws be optional. That isn't how law works no ?
That would make law a casual suggestion.
Another possibility could be upon Britain's exit a domino effect takes place and the whole mess collapses leaving nothing to be isolated from. Where would the £13bn shortfall come from.0 -
peterbob wrote:countries implement eu law as they like, which is why uk employee protection is so much weaker in the uk than some other eu countries
Why have EU law then? Since when and how can laws be optional. That isn't how law works no ?
That would make law a casual suggestion.
Another possibility could be upon Britain's exit a domino effect takes place and the whole mess collapses leaving nothing to be isolated from. Where would the £13bn shortfall come from.
Absolutely. If a law is allowed to be flaunted by some then that law is surely illegitimate or discriminatory.
The arguments against leaving are not taking into account the change in dynamics in the EU that will result. As if it will just carry on unchanged. Even if we stay in it will not remain the same. When Thatcher had the rebate agreed it was not the end of the matter it was just the start of a new chapter with unforeseen consequences. Holland are already asking for a referendum and Serbia say they are not so sure if they want to join.0
