Scwalbe G-One anyone?

cneifion
cneifion Posts: 53
edited August 2016 in Road buying advice
My soon to be delivered Rose cross bike will have Conti 4 Seasons for pure road use but I also intend to mix in off-road stuff on some rides - easy surfaces like canal towpaths, hardpack earth, gritty topped trails, woodland trails. So I am looking for tyres that offer more off-road grip than a smooth road tyre, roll and grip reasonably well on tarmac but are not as knobbly as a cyclocross racing tyre. Don't intend to do anything too muddy.
The new Schwalbe G-One "gravel" tyre seems to fit the bill based on Schwalbe's blurb, together with a good level of protection. There's not much in the way of reviews on these - just regurgitation of Scwhalbe's marketing puff - apart from a road.cc review of a Raleigh Roker fitted with them, which described them as "fantastic". So has anyone got any first hand experience?
There don't seem to any with UK suppliers at the moment. although there are some German online retailers that have stock. Is this a case of the Germans behaving the same way as the French do with wine - keep the best for themselves?
Another tyre I have considered is the Conti Cyclocross Speed but this doesn't seem to have any protection layer.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    G-One is quite new, so there may not be much in terms of reviews yet. It does look ideal for your use though. The S-One is also worth a look, 30mm width and a slightly smoother profile..
  • src1
    src1 Posts: 301
    I have both G-Ones and S-Ones. Both great tyres, for what you want the G-Ones are perfect.

    They're don't feel slow on road, but allow me to ride on off-road too. I got mine from bike-discount.de
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    I'm a Schwalbe tubeless fan but If you re not going to run them tubeless I reckon you could get as good elsewhere for less money
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  • cneifion
    cneifion Posts: 53
    Thanks for the comments guys. I'm definitely thinking of going tubeless - the rims are DT Swiss tubeless ready.

    Might take a trip to BikeExpo Manchester next month as Schwalbe have a stand there. Perhaps have a chance to see a G-One in the rubber and talk to them about tubeless.
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    I hope the compound is a lot better than the regular Schwalbe One tubeless. Mine were totally worn out and covered in cuts in 2000 miles and from on road use only, and even being tubeless I had more punctures than I normally would with regular tyres and tubes (could have just been bad luck). I've put tubeless on the back burner for now, until the tyres are a lot better there isn't really any advantage and they usually cost double what equivalent clinchers do for little benefit.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    They're a damn sight heavier, so should be a bit more hardy. Mine are out on a van somewhere. Hope to fit them tubed later, and tubeless on the weekend.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    They're on. They went on easily enough, levers needed. Letting them bed in.

    Not sure if they're a bit stiff at the moment, or whether they don't play nicely with tubes (which I'm only using for a day or two) but they're not quite seated properly yet. Not serious, but not completely true. They haven't popped like most tyres do when getting onto the rim.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Bit of fairy liquid and up down a few times and they seem almost perfect now. They feel lovely at 70 psi with tubes. Should be even lovelier without them
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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Availability with thd g one is the main issue. Wreck it and you might have to wait for a replacement. That is the only reason not to buy it at the moment. That may not even be a good reason.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    thecycleclinic wrote:
    Availability with thd g one is the main issue. Wreck it and you might have to wait for a replacement. That is the only reason not to buy it at the moment. That may not even be a good reason.

    Maybe fit another tyre in the meantime...
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I did say it may not be a good reason.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    I got a set for gravel racing from next day tyres on eBay. They needed 24 hours on the wheel with a tube in to find their shape but after that I set them up tubeless with only a track pump. I Got the 38c version and so far happy. Nice and comfy, grip well on fire roads etc. Hopeless on grass

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    (you need another "loo-ra" in your sig)
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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    ddraver wrote:
    (you need another "loo-ra" in your sig)

    No, I dont.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    First impressions of these are excellent. Think mine are still slightly lumpy. Hoping that will pass when I take the tubes out.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,787
    It will be interesting to see how quickly the tread knobbles wear down with a bit of road use.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    It will. I had some PX gravel ones (Uncle John?). Bit like a small block 8. They wore quite quickly
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,787
    I wonder if the S-Ones might be a better bet for a mix of winter roads and a few railway paths and forest tracks.

    Would be interesting to hear any comparison from someone who has both.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    The G-Ones are more knobbly than the S-Ones too
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Very impressed with mine so far. Done 40 miles on them today. Roll quickly, very comfy at 70 psi, good volume. Yet to test them off road but they look pretty durable. Will be removing the tubes shortly.
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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    35c & 38c
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited February 2016
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    No, it's more than that. The tread depth is significantly different. In any case, I've just fitted a pair of S-Ones and they are coming up more like 27-28mm...
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    97th choice wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    35c & 38c

    Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make though. The 35c are 35-622 and the 38c are 40-622. I understand 40c is 42-622 so you can see why it might confuse!
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  • 97th choice
    97th choice Posts: 2,222
    bendertherobot wrote:
    97th choice wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    35c & 38c

    Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make though. The 35c are 35-622 and the 38c are 40-622. I understand 40c is 42-622 so you can see why it might confuse!

    Yeah it is, I'll actually have to measure mine fitted to see what they actually come up as. I still have a bit of frame clearance with them fitted but not much.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    97th choice wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    97th choice wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    35c & 38c

    Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make though. The 35c are 35-622 and the 38c are 40-622. I understand 40c is 42-622 so you can see why it might confuse!

    Yeah it is, I'll actually have to measure mine fitted to see what they actually come up as. I still have a bit of frame clearance with them fitted but not much.

    I've got mm left with my 35c on the XLS. I suspect they're coming up at about 37c or so. I only say this because I know that my actual 37c Hyper Voyager exhibit similar clearance on the XLS.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,787
    Imposter wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    No, it's more than that. The tread depth is significantly different. In any case, I've just fitted a pair of S-Ones and they are coming up more like 27-28mm...

    I thought the knobbles on the S-Ones looked a bit less knobbly on the pictures!

    What rims have you got them on?

    I'd be interested to hear what you think of them. Are you planning to use them exclusively for road use or a bit of mixed ground?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MrB123 wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    No, it's more than that. The tread depth is significantly different. In any case, I've just fitted a pair of S-Ones and they are coming up more like 27-28mm...

    I thought the knobbles on the S-Ones looked a bit less knobbly on the pictures!

    What rims have you got them on?

    I'd be interested to hear what you think of them. Are you planning to use them exclusively for road use or a bit of mixed ground?

    They're on Alex ATD470 rims (came stock with the bike), a 17mm wide rim, so the tyres may sit wider on a different rim perhaps.

    I bought them mainly for road/rough road use, and some light farm track/gravel. Will let you know..
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    So tubeless easy say schwalbe.

    They really aren't kidding.
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  • staffo
    staffo Posts: 82
    Imposter wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    The only real difference is the size, S-One = 30c, G-Ones 35c & 40c

    No, it's more than that. The tread depth is significantly different. In any case, I've just fitted a pair of S-Ones and they are coming up more like 27-28mm...

    The S-Ones are coming up at 31mm on my wide Kinlin Xr22 rims.

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