Weight of Fulcrum S5 wheels

Giraffoto

I couldn't find the answer to this question on the Internet when I was buying my Roubaix, so now that I've finally taken them off, here are the results:

Front wheel - 840g without the Q/R skewer

Rear wheel - 1170g without the Q/R skewer (but with the plastic spoke protector disk)

These were stock wheels on a couple of 2015 Specialized models, including my own Roubaix Elite. My new "Winter wheels" (Superstar Pave 28) save almost a pound (around 400g, in fact) over the stock wheelset.

darkhairedlord

Giraffoto wrote:

I couldn't find the answer to this question on the Internet when I was buying my Roubaix, so now that I've finally taken them off, here are the results:

Front wheel - 840g without the Q/R skewer

Rear wheel - 1170g without the Q/R skewer (but with the plastic spoke protector disk)

These were stock wheels on a couple of 2015 Specialized models, including my own Roubaix Elite. My new "Winter wheels" (Superstar Pave 28) save almost a pound (around 400g, in fact) over the stock wheelset.

Did you weigh the Pave 28s or just off the listing?

Giraffoto

darkhairedlord wrote:

Giraffoto wrote:

I couldn't find the answer to this question on the Internet when I was buying my Roubaix, so now that I've finally taken them off, here are the results:

Front wheel - 840g without the Q/R skewer

Rear wheel - 1170g without the Q/R skewer (but with the plastic spoke protector disk)

These were stock wheels on a couple of 2015 Specialized models, including my own Roubaix Elite. My new "Winter wheels" (Superstar Pave 28) save almost a pound (around 400g, in fact) over the stock wheelset.

Did you weigh the Pave 28s or just off the listing?

I did weigh them - about 1600g the pair. [Edit - I weighed the Pave wheels with the rim tapes on and with a luggage scale that gives varying results. The shop quote 1555g which I believe to be an accurate figure]

cookeeemonster

Cheers for this post - I've tried unsuccessfully to find out this very question over the last week or so!

cmcdonnell

That's a shocking weight for the Fulcrums, is that rear without a cassette? Are the S5's the same as the Racing 5's as I've never heard of them. I've had a set of Racing 3's on my winter bike and they were slightly underweight at 665g and 880g which seemed good value for the £250 I paid. I can only speak for the Campagnolo ED10 freehub version but I have heard that the Shimano compatible ones are heavier.

dstev55

"Bloody heavy" in summary then.

darkhairedlord

cmcdonnell wrote:

That's a shocking weight for the Fulcrums, is that rear without a cassette? Are the S5's the same as the Racing 5's as I've never heard of them. I've had a set of Racing 3's on my winter bike and they were slightly underweight at 665g and 880g which seemed good value for the £250 I paid. I can only speak for the Campagnolo ED10 freehub version but I have heard that the Shimano compatible ones are heavier.

I think the S5 are similar to the racing sport or racing 7.

alex222

I recollect reading that the S5s are a combination of the Racing 5 and Racing 7. So if I remember correctly the hubs from one and the rim from another.

Edit: just saw this below on an old RoadCC review, which is what I was thinking of.
"The S4 wheels are a fusion between a Fulcrum 5 hub and Fulcrum 3 rim"
So at a guess the S5 could be a combination of 7 hub and 5 rim

cookeeemonster

From what I understand Fulcrum make a bunch of wheels (to a budget I suppose) for bike manufacturers such as Specialized, Cervelo and so on that are not available to buy normally. Getting details about these is not easy

I'm glad they're heavy...means I can knock a lot of weight off just by putting my Zondas on

cookeeemonster

ps I suspect they deliberately name them to sound similar to the ones people know and love...and which are a few hundred grams lighter

darkhairedlord

CookeeeMonster wrote:

ps I suspect they deliberately name them to sound similar to the ones people know and love...and which are a few hundred grams lighter

well thy're not going to call them fulcrum anchors...

MikeBrew

Giraffoto wrote:

darkhairedlord wrote:

Giraffoto wrote:

I couldn't find the answer to this question on the Internet when I was buying my Roubaix, so now that I've finally taken them off, here are the results:

Front wheel - 840g without the Q/R skewer

Rear wheel - 1170g without the Q/R skewer (but with the plastic spoke protector disk)

These were stock wheels on a couple of 2015 Specialized models, including my own Roubaix Elite. My new "Winter wheels" (Superstar Pave 28) save almost a pound (around 400g, in fact) over the stock wheelset.

Did you weigh the Pave 28s or just off the listing?

I did weigh them - about 1600g the pair.

Not a bad weight for ride to work wheels. Whats the spoke count ?

napoleond

Paves are 20/24 IIRC.
But they seem pretty solid!

Giraffoto

cmcdonnell wrote:

That's a shocking weight for the Fulcrums, is that rear without a cassette?

No cassette, no Q/R skewer, no tyre or tube. Only a plastic spoke protector disk and the rim tape. The Pave wheels have 20 front spokes, laced radially, and 24 at the back laced two cross - the same arrangement as the ones on the Fulcrum S5s . On the Paves they're butted, on the Fulcrum S5s they're plain gauge.

Giraffoto

As a postscript - I'm slowly overhauling an "entry level" road bike for my son. When it was new (a few years ago now) Halfords would have charged £350 for one. When I showed him the new Pave wheels on my bike his first question was, "so, can I have the old wheels off your bike on my bike now?"
"If they turn out to be lighter," I said, "certainly you can."
So last night I took the wheels off the Carrera. I found myself, for some reason, humming "Any old iron".

Front wheel (yes, the front one), no Q/R, no tyre, no tube - 1100g

Rear wheel, no cassette, no Q/R, no tyre, no tube, no spoke disc - 1480g
So I managed to re-use the OE wheels off the Roubaix and still knock half a Kg off the overall weight of the Carrera. In conclusion . . .

OE wheels can be shockingly heavy

The further you go down the price scale, the more shocking it gets

tamlad

[/quote]well thy're not going to call them fulcrum anchors...[/quote]

I had to reply to repost the above quoted line cause it's genius and made me laugh

bigmitch41

Ive got the Racing 5's on my Tarmac and already thinking of upgrading, the wheels are ok as training wheels but it looks like a lighter wheel set is going to be on the cards.

Been looking at the Zondas but the Eurus keep catching my eye!!

Bobbinogs

~£250 to save ~140g. Doesn't seem that bad but the 1600g of the Zondas isn't that bad to start with. Personally, I find most wheels ~1500g - 1600g feel good for climbing. The greater premium then becomes stiffness to keep the wheel straight in the blocks without rubbing, although at 65kg and a power weakling it isn't that important for me!