In the light of the Zika virus, how does the catholic church square the conundrum of birth control and preventing the birth of babies with deformities?
They're too busy money laundering , abusing children and then protecting the clergy who are guilty to notice.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
I believe the church's position is generally to promote abstinence. Yup. Good call. So much better than education and free healthcare.
In an unrelated story of which I only remember a few details . . .
A group of missionaries/VSO types were given the job of explaining contraception to some very uneducated people, and the authorities in that country were promoting the whole idea with a song (which, if anyone knows any more details about this, I'd love to see an English translation of). The volunteers did such a bad job of explaining and were so shy about answering questions that the target audience ended up with the impression that all that was necessary was to sing the song. (Whether before, during or after I don't know)
I'm sure God has a reason for mosquitos. In the 6000 years since he created the whole Universe and everything in it (in a mere 6 days), mosquitos have killed millions of humans, so they must be there for a reason.
I'm sure God has a reason for mosquitos. In the 6000 years since he created the whole Universe and everything in it (in a mere 6 days), mosquitos have killed millions of humans, so they must be there for a reason.
Ah, but how many millions of mosquitoes have humans killed?
Surely we are the plague?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
In the light of the Zika virus, how does the catholic church square the conundrum of birth control and preventing the birth of babies with deformities?
I think the Church does allow the use of condoms for health reasons e.g. AIDS prevention. It is a pretty recent development though, maybe 2010, and quite scandalous that it didn't happen sooner.
I'm sure God has a reason for mosquitos. In the 6000 years since he created the whole Universe and everything in it (in a mere 6 days), mosquitos have killed millions of humans, so they must be there for a reason.
On the 7th day, he did chillax, for he was pooped.
I'm sure God has a reason for mosquitos. In the 6000 years since he created the whole Universe and everything in it (in a mere 6 days), mosquitos have killed millions of humans, so they must be there for a reason.
Ah, but how many millions of mosquitoes have humans killed?
Surely we are the plague?
By some definitions, I'm sure humans could be classed as a plague. But, it's all pretty arbitrary. Guess you could add, the only time we intentionally harm mosquitoes is in self defence. But they also only bite humans for self preservation. It is the virus doing the harm. However, the same rules of nature that have led to that virus, have also led to us. So go figure!
It's just stuff that is happening, and there is no evidence that there is a reason for any of it beyond selfish genes doing what they do.
An evolved parasite doesn't kill it''s host. Pity about humans.
"Pity about humans." Not sure I follow... humans seem to be doing OK in most ways. Would be good if we could all 'calm down a bit'
The current consumption of resources is unsustainable and the current consumption of fossil fuels spells danger. If you would like an argument about the environment, from plastics to pollution - roll it on.
So you're equating a parasite on a living host to humans on earth as I our host. Interesting analogy.
If you follow it through you could say natural processes will apply to us by either global warming wipes us out or carbon fuel runs out before we get wiped out forcing us to leech off the planet in a less destructive way. I guess it's kind of like a parasite in our body either gets killed off, gets managed by the body or kills us. We'll end up as one of those unless we consciously decide to change our outlook/practises to become less draining on the planet.
Still, I think it's a bit melodramatic putting it quite like that.
An evolved parasite doesn't kill it''s host. Pity about humans.
"Pity about humans." Not sure I follow... humans seem to be doing OK in most ways. Would be good if we could all 'calm down a bit'
The current consumption of resources is unsustainable and the current consumption of fossil fuels spells danger. If you would like an argument about the environment, from plastics to pollution - roll it on.
Not sure there is debate on whether human activity is damaging the environment.
So you're equating a parasite on a living host to humans on earth as I our host. Interesting analogy.
If you follow it through you could say natural processes will apply to us by either global warming wipes us out or carbon fuel runs out before we get wiped out forcing us to leech off the planet in a less destructive way. I guess it's kind of like a parasite in our body either gets killed off, gets managed by the body or kills us. We'll end up as one of those unless we consciously decide to change our outlook/practises to become less draining on the planet.
Still, I think it's a bit melodramatic putting it quite like that.
Melodramatic maybe, but it is a simple analogy that gets the point across.
The worst creature on this planet is humans. Humans don't like being told that, obviously.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
So you're equating a parasite on a living host to humans on earth as I our host. Interesting analogy.
If you follow it through you could say natural processes will apply to us by either global warming wipes us out or carbon fuel runs out before we get wiped out forcing us to leech off the planet in a less destructive way. I guess it's kind of like a parasite in our body either gets killed off, gets managed by the body or kills us. We'll end up as one of those unless we consciously decide to change our outlook/practises to become less draining on the planet.
Still, I think it's a bit melodramatic putting it quite like that.
I'm sure evolved strategies of parasites is well studied, not particularly by me.
An issue is, that in the context of humans, and earth, definitions are a bit subjective. For a relationship to be 'parasitic', the host needs to derive no advantage, otherwise it is symbiotic. How do you define 'advantage' to the earth, which is not alive in itself? I don't know! The earth doesn't 'care'.
Another difference withthe humans/earth analogy, is that we really don't want to 'kill' our 'host' as we can't easily hop to another one. Different strategy required. I would hazard a guess that some parasites favour rapid re-production or growth over maintaining the host.
Another difference withthe humans/earth analogy, is that we really don't want to 'kill' our 'host' as we can't easily hop to another one. Different strategy required. I would hazard a guess that some parasites favour rapid re-production or growth over maintaining the host.
We don't want to kill our "host", but we are.
Rapid reproduction is a major part of the problem.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
So you're equating a parasite on a living host to humans on earth as I our host. Interesting analogy.
If...planet.
Still, I think it's a bit melodramatic putting it quite like that.
I'm sure evolved strategies of parasites is well studied, not particularly by me.
An...For a relationship to be 'parasitic', the host needs to derive no advantage, otherwise it is symbiotic.
The host, i'e the planet doesn't derive any advantage from humans, so by your theory, we are parasitic.
The earth doesn't 'care'.
Quite correct except that it suggests that the host or the parasite is conscious of the relationship, which is very difficult to determine. If you followed that philosophy through to completion, does it really matter that we are destroying the environment?
Another difference with the humans/earth analogy, is that we really don't want to 'kill' our 'host' as we can't easily hop to another one.
We don't seem to have a tangible momentum of a collective consciousness.
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Nice chap, God.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
To paraphrase Wolfgang Pauli
Es gibt keinen Gott und Bally ist sein Prophet.
BTW I am in no way shape or form comparing myself to Paul Dirac. Genius as he was.
No, I don't know your position on religion. Please elaborate. Er, and how does Paul Dirac come into this?
Es gibt keinen Gott und Dirac ist sein Prophet.
Its lunch?
Shouldn't that be 'Mosquito's and what?'
In an unrelated story of which I only remember a few details . . .
A group of missionaries/VSO types were given the job of explaining contraception to some very uneducated people, and the authorities in that country were promoting the whole idea with a song (which, if anyone knows any more details about this, I'd love to see an English translation of). The volunteers did such a bad job of explaining and were so shy about answering questions that the target audience ended up with the impression that all that was necessary was to sing the song. (Whether before, during or after I don't know)
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No, it shouldn't.
No need for a possessive apostrophe.
Surely we are the plague?
I am not sure. You have no chance.
I think the Church does allow the use of condoms for health reasons e.g. AIDS prevention. It is a pretty recent development though, maybe 2010, and quite scandalous that it didn't happen sooner.
On the 7th day, he did chillax, for he was pooped.
By some definitions, I'm sure humans could be classed as a plague. But, it's all pretty arbitrary. Guess you could add, the only time we intentionally harm mosquitoes is in self defence. But they also only bite humans for self preservation. It is the virus doing the harm. However, the same rules of nature that have led to that virus, have also led to us. So go figure!
It's just stuff that is happening, and there is no evidence that there is a reason for any of it beyond selfish genes doing what they do.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Technically, they kill themselves
Ah, thanks for putting me back on track
"Pity about humans." Not sure I follow... humans seem to be doing OK in most ways. Would be good if we could all 'calm down a bit'
The current consumption of resources is unsustainable and the current consumption of fossil fuels spells danger. If you would like an argument about the environment, from plastics to pollution - roll it on.
If you follow it through you could say natural processes will apply to us by either global warming wipes us out or carbon fuel runs out before we get wiped out forcing us to leech off the planet in a less destructive way. I guess it's kind of like a parasite in our body either gets killed off, gets managed by the body or kills us. We'll end up as one of those unless we consciously decide to change our outlook/practises to become less draining on the planet.
Still, I think it's a bit melodramatic putting it quite like that.
Not sure there is debate on whether human activity is damaging the environment.
The worst creature on this planet is humans. Humans don't like being told that, obviously.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
I'm sure evolved strategies of parasites is well studied, not particularly by me.
An issue is, that in the context of humans, and earth, definitions are a bit subjective. For a relationship to be 'parasitic', the host needs to derive no advantage, otherwise it is symbiotic. How do you define 'advantage' to the earth, which is not alive in itself? I don't know! The earth doesn't 'care'.
Another difference withthe humans/earth analogy, is that we really don't want to 'kill' our 'host' as we can't easily hop to another one. Different strategy required. I would hazard a guess that some parasites favour rapid re-production or growth over maintaining the host.
Rapid reproduction is a major part of the problem.
I am not sure. You have no chance.