What to carry when riding? Tubeless emergency repairs??

JGTR

Just wondered what people carry to fix punctures in tubeless tyres when out riding and what other bits and pieces you carry for emergency repairs??

I had a 2cm split in my tubeless tyre, luckily I had some gaffa tape which I laid inside the tyre and then fitted a tube, then slowly rode back home.

Any other tips/tricks??

Jay

Chunkers1980

Nope

lostboysaint

For something that big - a tube and a piece of card!

I use the Panaracer tubeless repair kit (well, I've used it once, put two strips side by side in a Team XR Mud and it held beautifully) and it's doable at the trailside but not for a split/cut that size. Best bet is to always have a tube (again, only ever had one puncture bad enough in tubeless that needed to have a tube in it) and just be prepared (pliers) to get the valve out and drop the tube in.*

*FFS remember to work your way around the tyre removing all the detritus that your tubeless set up has stopped from ruining your rides for the last few months, otherwise it's going to be a patch or two going on the tube very quickly! This removal can take forever depending on where you ride and how much rubbish is in the tyre!

JGTR

*FFS remember to work your way around the tyre removing all the detritus that your tubeless set up has stopped from ruining your rides for the last few months, otherwise it's going to be a patch or two going on the tube very quickly! This removal can take forever depending on where you ride and how much rubbish is in the tyre!

Good point, removed 4 thorns when I swapped from summer to winter tyres! Didn't check when I had the puncture last week, very lucky the tube held!

larkim

Just as a slightly off camber thought, if you are carrying the weight of a tube to repair a tubeless tyre with, doesn't that negate the weight benefit of running tubeless in the first place? Or is rotational mass different?

Chunkers1980

Yes it's lighter by a little bit, the benefits mainly come from running lower pressures.

lostboysaint

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19779269#p19779269]Chunkers1980[/url] wrote:

Yes it's lighter by a little bit, the benefits mainly come from running lower pressures.

And not stopping to repair punctures! (in 5 years of running tubeless I've only had to stop twice)

The "just in case" tube is in your pack or your pocket, so the same as you eating that extra packet of crisps - not static weight (or additional rotational mass) on the bike.

JGTR

If I was worried about weight I'd stop eating pies!! I run tubeless so I get less punctures, this is my first one in 2 years.

bigmitch41

CO2 Inflator and a decent multi-tool with pliers that will romove the thorns in the tyre before your emergency tube go's in. Ive been running tubeless for 18 months and only had to stick my emergency tube in once, due too a knackered sidewall incident.

JodyP

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19779209#p19779209]lostboysaint[/url] wrote:

*FFS remember to work your way around the tyre removing all the detritus that your tubeless set up has stopped from ruining your rides for the last few months, otherwise it's going to be a patch or two going on the tube very quickly! This removal can take forever depending on where you ride and how much rubbish is in the tyre!

Thanks and never though of that. My tyres will be littered as I must have had 20+ punctures this year.

batmo

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19779258#p19779258]larkim[/url] wrote:

Just as a slightly off camber thought, if you are carrying the weight of a tube to repair a tubeless tyre with, doesn't that negate the weight benefit of running tubeless in the first place? Or is rotational mass different?

People running tubes would likely be carrying a spare too, so you're still loosing weight by comparison.

Edit: Don't like the idea of being "off Camber"!!

The Rookie

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19779258#p19779258]larkim[/url] wrote:

if you are carrying the weight of a tube to repair a tubeless tyre with, doesn't that negate the weight benefit of running tubeless in the first place? Or is rotational mass different?

If you were running tubes you'd still be carrying a spare.....

Yes you still save on the rotational inertia with tubeless as well.

BloggingFit

Mini Pump, Tube, Instant Tubeless Liquid Plug, Tyre Lever, Washing Up Liquid if I'm running a tight tyre/combination. And food bars in case I get stuck out for longer than anticipated.

Ability to run lower pressures and not suffer superficial punctures far out weigh to small weight advantage for me.

Monty Dog

Tubeless - lower rolling resistance too, quite significant with bigger volume tyres.

cycleclinic

I carry the Genuine innovations "tyre worms" as of tomorrow. These useful things get inserted into the hole that is too big to seal and the sealant does the rest of the work. Only works for tubeless. A set of these and some CO2 is all I carry. I don't bother with a spare tube as I often forget.

I struggle to understand why anyone still uses inner tubes on anything but a old bike with old fashioned rims. I can run low pressures 20 psi or below depending on the tyre. I rode through stuff today that would normally have stopped me on my old retro with tubes. Given I ride rigid low pressure is a must.

Then again on my other 29er I use tubs and have no quams about going out for a long ride with nothing as I can't carry a spare tub. I always get home. I don't like fragile tyres for tubeless or tubs.

It is not just the lower rolling resistance that is noticeable it is the grip and comfort. There is no downside.

y2keable

A tube and a pump. Until something happens which would require me to carry more, I won't . Apart from the main advantages, I converted to tubeless so that I don't have to carry loads of extra kit around.

lostboysaint

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19782201#p19782201]thecycleclinic[/url] wrote:

I carry the Genuine innovations "tyre worms" as of tomorrow. These useful things get inserted into the hole that is too big to seal and the sealant does the rest of the work. Only works for tubeless. A set of these and some CO2 is all I carry. I don't bother with a spare tube as I often forget.

Same as the Panaracer kit but already cut. The Panaracer kit has a mini pair of scissors so that you can cut the rubber thread to size for the hole.

FishFish

The ghetto fix is to stuff the tyre with grass. I've only done it once but it beats pushing the bike.