Jersey and Gilet - perfect partnership?
Alex99
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Hi all,
have been thinking about a ss Gabba and other options, but like the flexibility of a gilet. Just wondered, is there a ss jersey that has softshell panels on upper arms, so when combined with a gilet, will give similar protection to e.g. a Gabba or similar bad weather ss jersey?
Cheers
have been thinking about a ss Gabba and other options, but like the flexibility of a gilet. Just wondered, is there a ss jersey that has softshell panels on upper arms, so when combined with a gilet, will give similar protection to e.g. a Gabba or similar bad weather ss jersey?
Cheers
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Thanks. That looks like a very nice jersey. I was really thinking about a jersey that doesn't have a softshell torso, so you could have good wind protection with the gilet on, then whip it off to dump heat. Kind of like an inverse transformer jacket.0 -
How about an Alpha jersey?
No need for a gilet then, just unzip the first layer if you want to cool off and let the wind in. It's maybe not 'bad weather' but should shrug off a little rain and will probably be at least as warm as a standard jersey/gilet combo.0 -
How about an Alpha jersey?
No need for a gilet then, just unzip the first layer if you want to cool off and let the wind in. It's maybe not 'bad weather' but should shrug off a little rain and will probably be at least as warm as a standard jersey/gilet combo.
That could do it. Thanks0 -
How about an Alpha jersey?
No need for a gilet then, just unzip the first layer if you want to cool off and let the wind in. It's maybe not 'bad weather' but should shrug off a little rain and will probably be at least as warm as a standard jersey/gilet combo.
That could do it. Thanks
Other than it's a long sleeve. I don't think you'll find a short sleeve where just the arms are softshell. Most of the Gore ones are similar to the Stolen Goat. Indeed, the Gore ones are a bit more windproofyMy blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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How about an Alpha jersey?
No need for a gilet then, just unzip the first layer if you want to cool off and let the wind in. It's maybe not 'bad weather' but should shrug off a little rain and will probably be at least as warm as a standard jersey/gilet combo.
That could do it. Thanks
Other than it's a long sleeve. I don't think you'll find a short sleeve where just the arms are softshell. Most of the Gore ones are similar to the Stolen Goat. Indeed, the Gore ones are a bit more windproofy
Sure you're right, probably doesn't exist. I really hate overheating and also don't like the cold when I start out. I'm an all around temperature wuss basically, so I try to go for maximum flexibility. In winter, I often put arm warmers over a long sleeve top to give me a layer to peel off. Much as many of the modern softshell jackets look great, I think they will bug me and I'll end up not using them. The Alpha may be the best shot, maybe starting out with a gilet on top.0 -
There is a Gabba with removable sleeves which might work for you?
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/castelli/gabba-2-wind-rain-convertible-jacket-ec067224?country=GB¤cy=GBP&esvt=1540-GOUKE388244&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-36342-1&esvcrea=61231491536&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQiA5dK0BRCr49qDzILe74UBEiQA_6gA-mPirZ__JoA_8P9b1MBg5Hhn1ZjbjOW4svBtylQpvKUaAsBc8P8HAQ0 -
There is a Gabba with removable sleeves which might work for you?
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/castelli/gabba-2-wind-rain-convertible-jacket-ec067224?country=GB¤cy=GBP&esvt=1540-GOUKE388244&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-36342-1&esvcrea=61231491536&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQiA5dK0BRCr49qDzILe74UBEiQA_6gA-mPirZ__JoA_8P9b1MBg5Hhn1ZjbjOW4svBtylQpvKUaAsBc8P8HAQ
Thanks. That's another good option.0 -
There is a Gabba with removable sleeves which might work for you?
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/castelli/gabba-2-wind-rain-convertible-jacket-ec067224?country=GB¤cy=GBP&esvt=1540-GOUKE388244&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-36342-1&esvcrea=61231491536&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQiA5dK0BRCr49qDzILe74UBEiQA_6gA-mPirZ__JoA_8P9b1MBg5Hhn1ZjbjOW4svBtylQpvKUaAsBc8P8HAQ
I have this - it doesn't quite have removable sleeves, it's a SS gabba underneath.Insert bike here:0 -
That's why I like my Phantom softshell. Sleeves zip off. So I can start with a ss jersey + armwarmers + jacket. Whip off the sleeves if a bit warm, unzip the resulting SS gilet, whip off the armwarmers if really too hot etc.
Only downside is it's not a proper roadie cut. Fine for my relaxed riding / posture, but maybe not snug enough or long enough at the back for racing snakes.0 -
That's why I like my Phantom softshell. Sleeves zip off. So I can start with a ss jersey + armwarmers + jacket. Whip off the sleeves if a bit warm, unzip the resulting SS gilet, whip off the armwarmers if really too hot etc.
Only downside is it's not a proper roadie cut. Fine for my relaxed riding / posture, but maybe not snug enough or long enough at the back for racing snakes.
Do you have a feel for how your Phantom or Gabba jackets compare in breathability / comfort vs a pocketable wind shell (plus e.g. an additional insulating layer)?0 -
I've got a couple of Gabbas (not the convertible) and a Phantom that I use in the winter on the MTB. The Phantom is a lot looser fit and a lot warmer. A good base layer and you're down to zero - there's maybe not the windchill of riding on the road though.
That said in the 4 years I've owned my Phantom, I've taken the sleeves off once. I see it as a cold weather jacket and use a LS jersey and Gore Path gilet combo if it's in between weather.
Breathability and comfort are probably equal between the two you mention. It depends on what fit you want - road/race or looser, commuter fit.0 -
I've got a couple of Gabbas (not the convertible) and a Phantom that I use in the winter on the MTB. The Phantom is a lot looser fit and a lot warmer. A good base layer and you're down to zero - there's maybe not the windchill of riding on the road though.
That said in the 4 years I've owned my Phantom, I've taken the sleeves off once. I see it as a cold weather jacket and use a LS jersey and Gore Path gilet combo if it's in between weather.
Breathability and comfort are probably equal between the two you mention. It depends on what fit you want - road/race or looser, commuter fit.
That's some good info. I was wondering how they compare to a lightweight wind jacket? Obviously, they will be more flappy in the wind, but is breathability better in the modern softshells?0 -
Never tried a Gabba so couldn't say. Agree that the Phantom is pretty warm, even when wet. Can't really wear it at temps much above 10c, so it's not had much use yet this 'winter'. It's very breathable though; the Windstopper is only on the front and arms where you need it.
I still may buy a thin, pocketable gilet for the warmer months.0 -
Never tried a Gabba so couldn't say. Agree that the Phantom is pretty warm, even when wet. Can't really wear it at temps much above 10c, so it's not had much use yet this 'winter'. It's very breathable though; the Windstopper is only on the front and arms where you need it.
I still may buy a thin, pocketable gilet for the warmer months.
Thanks all.0 -
My Assos iJ intermediate has pretty much negated the need of a gilet.
It's thin, warm and breathable.
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I've got a couple of Gabbas (not the convertible) and a Phantom that I use in the winter on the MTB. The Phantom is a lot looser fit and a lot warmer. A good base layer and you're down to zero - there's maybe not the windchill of riding on the road though.
That said in the 4 years I've owned my Phantom, I've taken the sleeves off once. I see it as a cold weather jacket and use a LS jersey and Gore Path gilet combo if it's in between weather.
Breathability and comfort are probably equal between the two you mention. It depends on what fit you want - road/race or looser, commuter fit.
Good post, I agree.
I bought the Phantom over the Gabba a couple of years ago because I wanted the flexibility of removing the sleeves and couldn't quite stretch to the convertible Gabba. The reality is I've only ever taken them off once in all that time and probably shouldn't have had the Phantom on anyway as it was way too warm.
I do also find the Phantom really warm and sweat a lot even in cold temperatures (down to 0) with just one base layer on. Then after about 90 minutes start to feel the cold a bit due to all the sweat.
Ideal for me is Torm base layer and long sleeve jersey with Gilet over the top to stop the wind but only down to about 5 degrees. Can ditch the gilet if not windy.0 -
I have this:- Gore Bike Wear Oxygen Windstopper Softshell Short Sleeve Jersey. which is really a jersey with a gilet wth a breathable back. Of course it is not as versatile as taking a jersey and Gilet. It is only 60 quid.0
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Surely a regular jersey with a Gilet and arm-warmers covers everything between stinking hot and heavy jacket?
Yes, absolutely, you're right. Just wondering if this already very flexible setup can be taken further.
I think the core of what I was getting at in the original question, is that I'd like to get as close to the function of a single piece outer garment (e.g. Gabba), but made up of removable/pocketable stuff such as a gilet. Hence asking about jerseys with softshell arms that would close the gap, so to speak.0 -
How about the Castelli Perfetto?
https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/castelli-launch-perfetto-weatherproof-jersey-and-tempesta-waterproof-jacket.html- 2023 Vielo V+1
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http://www.prendas.co.uk/prendas-ciclismo-windproof-reef-rain-jersey-by-santini.html
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