Least inconvenient place to mount a battery pack?

larkim
larkim Posts: 2,485
edited January 2016 in MTB general
Son got bought a Solarstorm light with a 4x18650 battery pack over the Christmas period, and we took a look at the best mounting options for it over the weekend.

Lights are planned to go on the bar, and that seems straightforward enough. If it was my bike, I'd then mount the battery pack under the seat with some inner tube to protect it from the water etc. But his bike is a FS with a dropper, so that sounds like a less than ideal solution.

Is the least bad place to stick it just under the top tube attached with cable ties and inner tube (to stop the cable ties marking the paintwork and to make sure it doesn't side down towards the rear shock)? Bike is a Canyon Nerve.

He might also try helmet mounting, but obviously battery then goes in a pocket so that is much simpler.
2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)

Comments

  • lancew
    lancew Posts: 680
    Mine goes around the base of the seat collar, above the top tube. Works quite well there.
    Specialized Allez Sport 2013
  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
    I always strapped mine to the stem and if the stem wasn't long enough then under the top tube but found it would move around there. Last night I made a bottle battery to go in the bottle track.
    I love horses, best of all the animals. I love horses, they're my friends.

    Strava
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Mine always goes under the stem, bottom of the holder pointing forward to reduce any mud splatter on the entrance to the battery compartment.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Mine goes around the base of the seat collar, above the top tube. Works quite well there.
    Thanks, thought of that but insufficient space on the frame I think as it has a triangle to strengthen the seat post / top tube. Had originally hoped that inside that triangle would work, but sadly not big enough.
    2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
    2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
    2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
    2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
    2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
    2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Does inserting the battery pack inside a short section of inner tube sound a sensible option for waterproofing / mud splatter resistance? Or does this sound like a completely stupid idea?

    Will try under the stem, I sort of presumed that extra cables there would get very messy.
    2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
    2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
    2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
    2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
    2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
    2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)
  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
    No need, batteries are pretty much waterproof/well sealed.
    I love horses, best of all the animals. I love horses, they're my friends.

    Strava
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    No they're not, especially the Chinese Solarstorm type. Could just be four old laptop cells wrapped in paper.

    Some are, some aren't. For wet use I would err on the side of caution.
    I don't do smileys.

    There is no secret ingredient - Kung Fu Panda

    London Calling on Facebook

    Parktools
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The stock battery pack isn't waterproof, I smear silicon sealer on both ends to close up the gaps between the shrink wrap and then it is.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
    The last cheapo Chinese pack I pulled apart didn't have any circuitry attached and submerging it in water wouldn't short it out so I'd be happy enough letting it get wet. How careful you want to be is up to you.
    I love horses, best of all the animals. I love horses, they're my friends.

    Strava
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    So it wouldn't short out from one end of the battery to the other?
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
    So it wouldn't short out from one end of the battery to the other?
    No. Water isn't conductive enough to short a battery.
    I love horses, best of all the animals. I love horses, they're my friends.

    Strava
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Contaminated water is.....

    I did of course mean cell not battery!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
    Well a battery is just a collection of cells configured to increase overall voltage or Ah. You'll probably find the water has to be very contaminated, beyond what you're going to experience riding in the rain or through some puddles. But hey, you can't be wrong so I'm just going to drop out of this as it's becoming pointless.
    I love horses, best of all the animals. I love horses, they're my friends.

    Strava
  • Got a cheap solar storm on the way.. Can I get away with completely wrapping the battery pack in a shrink wrap/duct tape combo or is that going to promote an explosion?

    Very new to all this battery stuff, will be my first real set of lights.
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    As mentioned above, I use silicon sealer and smear it across each end to close the gap in the shrink wrap, that works well.

    No, wrapping it will not make a fire or explosion more likely. The only way to avoid those issues is with a better quality charger.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • If you put in under the stem, which is a good spot IME, you might need to protect the headtube with helitape. If the pack is right on it then the steering motion can score your frame.
  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    I use a Deuter Energy bag - there are other brands available too. It can easily hold a battery pack, tools and a few rags to stop it all rattling.
    Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
    XM-057 rigid 29er
  • I have wrapped a battery pack inside a latex glove in the past, the cheap solarstorm light battery's dont fair well in the wet weather, you can also adapt a water drinks bottle to hold a battery pack. I always mount my'n under the down tube. Hope that helps.
    Paracyclist
    @Bigmitch_racing
    2010 Specialized Tricross (commuter)
    2014 Whyte T129-S
    2016 Specialized Tarmac Ultegra Di2
    Big Mitch - YouTube