Did Jess Phillips MP (Labour) Really Say This?

mr_goo
mr_goo Posts: 3,770
edited December 2015 in The cake stop
Was watching this the other day with my father in law and we couldn't quite believe what we heard from one of Corbyn's comrades. We both looked at each other in astonishment.

Below is the link to BBC iPlayer Daily Politics for Tues 8th Dec. Its a discussion on poverty and being working class. You probably need to start at about 38:00 but what Jess Phillips said at minute 40:15 is quite unbelievable for an MP of any party.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06s5xfh/daily-politics-08122015
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    What's the quote?
    _
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758801#p19758801]Rick Chasey[/url] wrote:
    What's the quote?

    Listen carefully to what she says.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    Can you paraphrase for us?
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    No. I'm going out now.
    All I can say is she obviously thinks quite highly of herself.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Watched the relevant few minutes and can't really see the point you are making Goo. To paraphrase it for others she is talking about the Labour Party and says maybe they should talk more about those who are not in poverty but are not wealthy - those in the middle - then she says that is her background and then says she's now at the top which I assume is what Goo is referring to. In the context of the discussion she's just comparing how she is relatively well off now compared to her upbringing which was working class but not poor. It's about Labour reconnecting with ordinary working people and she's saying she recognises that because that is where she comes from.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    So, you are saying: Move along, no story here?
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Yes
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  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    no you've lost me
    seems spectacularly ordinary political chit chat....
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758814#p19758814]DeVlaeminck[/url] wrote:
    Watched the relevant few minutes and can't really see the point you are making Goo. To paraphrase it for others she is talking about the Labour Party and says maybe they should talk more about those who are not in poverty but are not wealthy - those in the middle - then she says that is her background and then says she's now at the top which I assume is what Goo is referring to. In the context of the discussion she's just comparing how she is relatively well off now compared to her upbringing which was working class but not poor. It's about Labour reconnecting with ordinary working people and she's saying she recognises that because that is where she comes from.

    So clearly you think that in the context of discussing poverty and the working class it is ok for any MP, but in this instance a Labour/Socialist MP to state they are at the TOP?
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758999#p19758999]Mr Goo[/url] wrote:
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758814#p19758814]DeVlaeminck[/url] wrote:
    Watched the relevant few minutes and can't really see the point you are making Goo. To paraphrase it for others she is talking about the Labour Party and says maybe they should talk more about those who are not in poverty but are not wealthy - those in the middle - then she says that is her background and then says she's now at the top which I assume is what Goo is referring to. In the context of the discussion she's just comparing how she is relatively well off now compared to her upbringing which was working class but not poor. It's about Labour reconnecting with ordinary working people and she's saying she recognises that because that is where she comes from.

    So clearly you think that in the context of discussing poverty and the working class it is ok for any MP, but in this instance a Labour/Socialist MP to state they are at the TOP?
    Fine by me if they are at the top.
    A denial of the top existing is a denial of the truth.
    Is it wrong for anyone to wish to better themselves?
    At least she is acknowledging where she is instead of playing at being "normal" when she isn't.
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  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    I guess this is about Labour trying to reconnect with the middle classes as they have realised that it is very difficult to get into power without taking a big chunk of that vote. Blair managed it quite successfully, albeit that I find it hard to write the words "successful" and "Blair" in one sentence.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    edited December 2015
    As more than just a bit of a Leftie (old school), I can see no problem with what she's saying: she's being open about her family history, current position and beliefs. As much as we may not want them to, times have changed and this is politics today.

    Nothing to see here.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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    He's right you know.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19759033#p19759033]Bobbinogs[/url] wrote:
    I guess this is about Labour trying to reconnect with the middle classes as they have realised that it is very difficult to get into power without taking a big chunk of that vote. Blair managed it quite successfully, albeit that I find it hard to write the words "successful" and "Blair" in one sentence.
    Never mind that, try writing the words "Corbyn" and "successful" on the same page, or book even.
  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    I think I could manage "Corbyn" and "vicar" in one sentence quite well, but that is for another thread :)
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758999#p19758999]Mr Goo[/url] wrote:
    [url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19758814#p19758814]DeVlaeminck[/url] wrote:
    Watched the relevant few minutes and can't really see the point you are making Goo. To paraphrase it for others she is talking about the Labour Party and says maybe they should talk more about those who are not in poverty but are not wealthy - those in the middle - then she says that is her background and then says she's now at the top which I assume is what Goo is referring to. In the context of the discussion she's just comparing how she is relatively well off now compared to her upbringing which was working class but not poor. It's about Labour reconnecting with ordinary working people and she's saying she recognises that because that is where she comes from.

    So clearly you think that in the context of discussing poverty and the working class it is ok for any MP, but in this instance a Labour/Socialist MP to state they are at the TOP?


    Is your objection that she is conflating being well off with being successful in life, somehow above others in the way that upper class and lower class might? I have some sympathy for that kind of argument but isn't it something we (nearly) all do so I wouldn't pull her up on it.
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