Touring bike?
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I might have to change the chainring to get some lower gears but no big deal.
It looks like it has a compact double with an 34t ring. This is the smaller 110 BCD that you can fit on this chainset. You may be able to change the cassette to one with a larger sprocket than 32 if the rear mech will accommodate it.
I have a thread about it here. viewtopic.php?f=40020&t=13040600
And the guys there seem to think a lower geared crank set from Middleburn will do the job. Are you saying this won't work?
Whoof is talking about the normal compact chainset with a bolt circle diameter (BCD) of 110. In fact you can fit a 33 tooth ring to those but you won't notice much difference from a 34. Middleburn cranks have a smaller BCD so you can fit much smaller rings than 50/34, for example 46/30 and smaller.0 -
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I might have to change the chainring to get some lower gears but no big deal.
I have a thread about it here. viewtopic.php?f=40020&t=13040600
And the guys there seem to think a lower geared crank set from Middleburn will do the job. Are you saying this won't work?
I've read the thread and the consensus is if you want a lower gearing change your chainset (i.e. cranks and chainrings, and possibly the bottom bracket) to one such as the Middleburn you have mentioned. On this thread you said you would 'change the chainring...no big deal' to obtain a lower gear which I don't think is possible other than a single tooth as noted by Mercia Man above.
Regarding gearing for loaded touring I use a 24t chainring with a largest sprocket of 28t on a 26" wheel which is a gearing of (24/28)*26= 22in0 -
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I tour on a Condor Fratello (which is marketed as a "fast tourer" amongst other things), and I do occasionally catch my heels on the panniers if I'm not careful when putting them on. Personally I like the sharper handling - but if I was doing longer tours regularly I would probably get something like the Surly (you can actually build the 700c version up to look OK, one of my mates has one).
I've already bought the CdF 30 so I'm kind of stuck with it. I like the bike, it's marketed as an all rounder. I might have to change the chainring to get some lower gears but no big deal. I've rode with panniers on my Ridgeback Speed which isn't a touring bike either I didn't have any problems catching my heel unless my foot was far too back on the pedal.
Yeah I'm with you, a CdF is definitely on my list of "to buy" bikes - I really like that it can capably manage offroad. My girlfriend has a CdF 30 and I like it a lot.
If I was doing a round the world tour or something I'd probably get a Tour de Fer or a Surly. But if I wanted a bike to use for shorter tours (which realistically is what I do between work and holiday allowance etc.) I'd probably get something like the CdF (if I didn't already have the Condor!).0 -
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I might have to change the chainring to get some lower gears but no big deal.
I have a thread about it here. viewtopic.php?f=40020&t=13040600
And the guys there seem to think a lower geared crank set from Middleburn will do the job. Are you saying this won't work?
I've read the thread and the consensus is if you want a lower gearing change your chainset (i.e. cranks and chainrings, and possibly the bottom bracket) to one such as the Middleburn you have mentioned. On this thread you said you would 'change the chainring...no big deal' to obtain a lower gear which I don't think is possible other than a single tooth as noted by Mercia Man above.
Regarding gearing for loaded touring I use a 24t chainring with a largest sprocket of 28t on a 26" wheel which is a gearing of (24/28)*26= 22in
My bad, I'm still a newbie at this. Yes, I would change the chainSET, hopefully avoiding having to change the bottom bracket though.0 -
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I tour on a Condor Fratello (which is marketed as a "fast tourer" amongst other things), and I do occasionally catch my heels on the panniers if I'm not careful when putting them on. Personally I like the sharper handling - but if I was doing longer tours regularly I would probably get something like the Surly (you can actually build the 700c version up to look OK, one of my mates has one).
I've already bought the CdF 30 so I'm kind of stuck with it. I like the bike, it's marketed as an all rounder. I might have to change the chainring to get some lower gears but no big deal. I've rode with panniers on my Ridgeback Speed which isn't a touring bike either I didn't have any problems catching my heel unless my foot was far too back on the pedal.
Yeah I'm with you, a CdF is definitely on my list of "to buy" bikes - I really like that it can capably manage offroad. My girlfriend has a CdF 30 and I like it a lot.
If I was doing a round the world tour or something I'd probably get a Tour de Fer or a Surly. But if I wanted a bike to use for shorter tours (which realistically is what I do between work and holiday allowance etc.) I'd probably get something like the CdF (if I didn't already have the Condor!).
Roughly how many miles are your shorter tours?0 -
This year I've done 2 x 3 day tours (both fully loaded with camping equipment), one was about 220 miles round the North and West coasts of Scotland, and the other was a bit more casual (camping around whisky country...) at under 150 miles.
I found the Condor to be totally fine for this. My girlfriend found the CdF totally fine for the second (although I was carrying all the camping equipment.....); she didn't come on the first tour (she's not really up for 90 mile days, which is what we did on the second day...).0 -
This year I've done 2 x 3 day tours (both fully loaded with camping equipment), one was about 220 miles round the North and West coasts of Scotland, and the other was a bit more casual (camping around whisky country...) at under 150 miles.
I found the Condor to be totally fine for this. My girlfriend found the CdF totally fine for the second (although I was carrying all the camping equipment.....); she didn't come on the first tour (she's not really up for 90 mile days, which is what we did on the second day...).
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Thinking outside the box a bit....
Would all the parts on the CdF (minus the chainset) bolt straight on to a TdF 20 frameset and I could put a Middleburn crank on there. Just thinking if I didn't like the handling of a fully loaded CdF I could swap over the components for any serious touring...0