Drivers' ranting: nothing can be done. Really?
pmorgan1
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Recently had a club ride where colleagues felt a lot more drivers than usual ranting at the cyclists. I have stopped paying attention to such incidents as "save your energy", "nothing you can do about it". But we've had a chat about it. Apparently there are more lawyers these days dealing with bike incidents. If you have a recording of the near miss or rant - is there nothing that can be done? Apart from emailing the video to business owners if it was a company car?
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Various offences could be committed:
Threatening behavior Sec 4 Public order Act 1986: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4
Inconsiderate or careless driving Sec 3 Road traffic act 1988 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/3
or waive and say sorry or morning, deescalation is best policy.0 -
Blow kisses and give the "call me" sign.0
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Look confused... sorry can't hear you.. what was that?... no sorry still can't hear you... speak up a bit.... what?... no sorry still can't hear you....
They will soon give up.0 -
Drivers ranting is just normal.
I must have had a thousand shout ups, if not more.
Most have just been testosterone fuelled silliness, on both parts.
Some have been close to physical confrontation, but not too many.
I believe that I will always be at the disadvantage, you never know if that driver is going to come up behind you the next day, week or month and how he'll react if he does.
If I made a claim every time I had a driver rant at me I'd swamp the system in a week.0 -
I don't bother getting involved. The majority of ranty car drivers are not open to sense and reason. Also I do not fancy being the next youtube cycling sensation.0
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Two options:
1. Equip your bike with front- and rear-facing cameras to record these injustices. Every evening, when you get home, edit the footage into a video (one per incident) and post on YouTube. Various police forces give guidelines, but in general you need a good minute's continuous footage leading up to the incident. Once you've posted this information, file a complaint to the relevant police force, research the vehicle's owner where possible, and send a complaint to them too. Contact a lawyer as appropriate. If your commutes are anything like mine, you're probably looking at a couple of videos a day, on average.
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2. Let the whole thing go. Accept that there's an almost inexhaustible supply of idiots out there, the only one of whom you can do anything about is yourself, and get on with the rest of your life.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
This.Two options:
1. Equip your bike with front- and rear-facing cameras to record these injustices. Every evening, when you get home, edit the footage into a video (one per incident) and post on YouTube. Various police forces give guidelines, but in general you need a good minute's continuous footage leading up to the incident. Once you've posted this information, file a complaint to the relevant police force, research the vehicle's owner where possible, and send a complaint to them too. Contact a lawyer as appropriate. If your commutes are anything like mine, you're probably looking at a couple of videos a day, on average.
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2. Let the whole thing go. Accept that there's an almost inexhaustible supply of idiots out there, the only one of whom you can do anything about is yourself, and get on with the rest of your life.
One occasional satisfaction with option 2. for those who enjoy upsetting the idiots without getting into a shouting match is that ignoring them is sometimes the very thing that further infuriates them.Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
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There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".Location: ciderspace0
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There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete twat that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.0 -
There's an Audi near me with 666 on the reg. Tried to kill me once when I was on a motorbike, not my words but those of a friend that saw it. He then tried it again when I was on a bicycle. Others have had similar run ins with him. Now I now where he lives, I've considered leaving a note on his windscreen indicating he should leave people more room as they might know where he lives. Should focus his mind a little. :twisted:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745294#p19745294]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete fool that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.0 -
If you were him, how would you react?
I doubt it would help you in your quest to educate him.0 -
I find that making chimpanzee noises whilst being ranted at can help.
Best to have an escape route planned in advance though.0 -
There's an Audi near me with 666 on the reg. Tried to kill me once when I was on a motorbike, not my words but those of a friend that saw it. He then tried it again when I was on a bicycle. Others have had similar run ins with him. Now I now where he lives, I've considered leaving a note on his windscreen indicating he should leave people more room as they might know where he lives. Should focus his mind a little. :twisted:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745294#p19745294]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete fool that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.
I'd be careful if i was you i'm sure i have seen him on this forum,mountain biker i think.0 -
I find that making chimpanzee noises whilst being ranted at can help.
This made me laugh! Gonna so try it.0 -
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Depends on my mood really. If I'm in my normal good mood I will smile and wave at them which really winds them up. If they actively endangered my safety then I have been known to call less articulate motorists the C word.
As far as what can be done, not much - its a jungle out there! I guess you should take the number plate down and report it to the police? I know they used to pay drivers who'd had several complaints a visit, but I'm guessing they don't do this any more?0 -
There's an Audi near me with 666 on the reg. Tried to kill me once when I was on a motorbike, not my words but those of a friend that saw it. He then tried it again when I was on a bicycle. Others have had similar run ins with him. Now I now where he lives, I've considered leaving a note on his windscreen indicating he should leave people more room as they might know where he lives. Should focus his mind a little. :twisted:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745294#p19745294]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete fool that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.
I'd be careful if i was you i'm sure i have seen him on this forum,mountain biker i think.
Well if he's a cyclist he should really know better, and I have no sympathy if he gets his car burnt out.
Also I have no problem with actually saying to that to him, so if he is on the forum then bring it on.0 -
No, it's not him. I know the guy you mean and have had a drink with him.
There's an Audi near me with 666 on the reg. Tried to kill me once when I was on a motorbike, not my words but those of a friend that saw it. He then tried it again when I was on a bicycle. Others have had similar run ins with him. Now I now where he lives, I've considered leaving a note on his windscreen indicating he should leave people more room as they might know where he lives. Should focus his mind a little. :twisted:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745294#p19745294]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete fool that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.
I'd be careful if i was you i'm sure i have seen him on this forum,mountain biker i think.
I've only considered leaving a note as I know it won't help in reality.0 -
No, it's not him. I know the guy you mean and have had a drink with him.
There's an Audi near me with 666 on the reg. Tried to kill me once when I was on a motorbike, not my words but those of a friend that saw it. He then tried it again when I was on a bicycle. Others have had similar run ins with him. Now I now where he lives, I've considered leaving a note on his windscreen indicating he should leave people more room as they might know where he lives. Should focus his mind a little. :twisted:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745294#p19745294]Snakebite the 2nd[/url] wrote:There is also option 3, which is the stalker/vigilante "follow them home and seek pusillanimous revenge by letting tyres down/leaving rude note under wipers/pouring brake fluid over paintwork etc".
Not being a stalker, but there is one silver Lexus driven by a complete fool that lives on my route home.
Took me a couple of days to make the connection, but now I know where he lives it makes it easier to make a complaint to the rozzers should he do it again.
I'd be careful if i was you i'm sure i have seen him on this forum,mountain biker i think.
I've only considered leaving a note as I know it won't help in reality.
Ah but did you feel dizzy after the drink and lose track of time.
I doubt someone like that would take notice of a note anyway and that was all a joke about the mountain biker btw
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You've met him too then. :shock:Ah but did you feel dizzy after the drink and lose track of time.
I doubt someone like that would take notice of a note anyway and that was all a joke about the mountain biker btw
Thought I'd better say it wasn't him in case someone believed it was. He'd only run someone over if they voted Labour.
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