E-Mountain bike
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8) Hi guys,
I’am a university student and i’m doing an interesting project regarding e-mountain bikes. I kindly ask you to answer this short survey and help me to receive answers from people interested in the world of mountain bikiking.
Thank you!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1C04...mail_form_link
I’am a university student and i’m doing an interesting project regarding e-mountain bikes. I kindly ask you to answer this short survey and help me to receive answers from people interested in the world of mountain bikiking.
Thank you!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1C04...mail_form_link
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What I said here.
viewtopic.php?f=10004&t=13039813I don't do smileys.
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Page request invalid. That should limit your answers.Closet jockey wheel pimp whore.0
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No, I think it's just a sign of the quality of English turned out by UK secondary schools these days.
The link is broken as its been truncated after being posted somewhere else first and the OP was to daft to check that and also not keep reposting the rubbish English!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
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No, I think it's just a sign of the quality of English turned out by UK secondary schools these days.
The link is broken as its been truncated after being posted somewhere else first and the OP was to daft to check that and also not keep reposting the rubbish English!
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All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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E bikes are for fat, lazy people or disabled riders.
That's all there is to say about e bikesTransition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
In the mtb sense maybe. But for getting about I think they are great. I'm waiting for a super lightweight compact boost for electric to get you going and little boosts on the way to add speed to make things more fun.. Something down the seat tube onto the bb spindle perhaps0
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E bikes are for fat, lazy people
I resent that, being both of those admirable qualities.I don't do smileys.
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E bikes are for fat, lazy people
I resent that, being both of those admirable qualities.
Just because you're fat and lazy (old as well) doesn't mean you have to have a hybrid. They are the qualifications for owning one though.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
E bikes are for fat, lazy people or disabled riders.
That's all there is to say about e bikes
Thats a bit harsh to be honest. The main issue to my mind is , except for a loophole they exploit in the law, they are not cycles, they are low powered Motor cycles If they had a bigger motor on, that's what they would be classes as. As such they have as much right to exist as any other motorized transport, But riders cant, with any self respect, refer to them selves as cyclists,
I had this conversation with a guy chugging up a path on one. He got defensive and said he had heart problems and needed exercise, To which I replied, it would do a lot more for your health if you pushed the thing. How just sitting there counts as exercise I have no idea0 -
E bikes are for fat, lazy people or disabled riders.
That's all there is to say about e bikes
Thats a bit harsh to be honest. The main issue to my mind is , except for a loophole they exploit in the law, they are not cycles, they are low powered Motor cycles If they had a bigger motor on, that's what they would be classes as. As such they have as much right to exist as any other motorized transport, But riders cant, with any self respect, refer to them selves as cyclists,
I had this conversation with a guy chugging up a path on one. He got defensive and said he had heart problems and needed exercise, To which I replied, it would do a lot more for your health if you pushed the thing. How just sitting there counts as exercise I have no idea
You're starting to sound like a buIIshitter. If you'd really gone up a hill with someone on an e-bike you'd have known that you still have to pedal, you don't just sit there. And that's not to mention that you still have to put in as much effort on the way down.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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E bikes are for fat, lazy people or disabled riders.
That's all there is to say about e bikes
Thats a bit harsh to be honest. The main issue to my mind is , except for a loophole they exploit in the law, they are not cycles, they are low powered Motor cycles If they had a bigger motor on, that's what they would be classes as. As such they have as much right to exist as any other motorized transport, But riders cant, with any self respect, refer to them selves as cyclists,
I had this conversation with a guy chugging up a path on one. He got defensive and said he had heart problems and needed exercise, To which I replied, it would do a lot more for your health if you pushed the thing. How just sitting there counts as exercise I have no idea
You're starting to sound like a buIIshitter. If you'd really gone up a hill with someone on an e-bike you'd have known that you still have to pedal, you don't just sit there. And that's not to mention that you still have to put in as much effort on the way down.
That's a matter of interpretation, the pedals have to be turning, for the engine to operate, but that's quite a long way from the concept of peddling as I know it. Its more a case of keeping the electric switched on by rotor motion ?
As an aside They were selling ebikes on Idea World( I think) a couple of weeks ago, that didn't require any peddling at all, they had a throttle on the handlebars. So I'm not sure if the pedaling requirement is still current or if Ideal World were selling illegal e bikes ?0 -
That's a matter of interpretation, the pedals have to be turning, for the engine to operate, but that's quite a long way from the concept of peddling as I know it. Its more a case of keeping the electric switched on by rotor motion ?
No it's not, you still have to put effort into the pedals, it's not just a matter of keeping them turning. e-bikes assist, not replace your effort.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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That's a matter of interpretation, the pedals have to be turning, for the engine to operate, but that's quite a long way from the concept of peddling as I know it. Its more a case of keeping the electric switched on by rotor motion ?
No it's not, you still have to put effort into the pedals, it's not just a matter of keeping them turning. e-bikes assist, not replace your effort.
Ok , so by what % do they assist ?0 -
That's a matter of interpretation, the pedals have to be turning, for the engine to operate, but that's quite a long way from the concept of peddling as I know it. Its more a case of keeping the electric switched on by rotor motion ?
No it's not, you still have to put effort into the pedals, it's not just a matter of keeping them turning. e-bikes assist, not replace your effort.
Ok , so by what % do they assist ?
Don't know, but I've ridden one a few times and you still finish a run knackered. Just means you can go longer, faster more of the time and crack climbs that would otherwise defeat you or leave you too knackered to really give it the beans on the downs. But you definitely don't just sit there.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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That's a matter of interpretation, the pedals have to be turning, for the engine to operate, but that's quite a long way from the concept of peddling as I know it. Its more a case of keeping the electric switched on by rotor motion ?
No it's not, you still have to put effort into the pedals, it's not just a matter of keeping them turning. e-bikes assist, not replace your effort.
Ok , so by what % do they assist ?
quick google
here is the LATEST law https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules
No mention of the motor having to assist peddling, So idea world were correct. They are now JUST mini motor bikes
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So idea world were correct. They are now JUST mini motor bikes
No, what most here will consider an e-bike is an assist.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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So idea world were correct. They are now JUST mini motor bikes
No, what most here will consider an e-bike is an assist.
What you consider it, is rather besides the Point. The law has spoken, they are now not exclusively pedal assistance,
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Has it occurred to you Brian that there are different types? The motor can be in either wheel, spin cranks/drive wheel under power, electric power only and assist to your peddling? Also the guy with heart trouble might mean he can get out and about for 20 miles and have more fun than on a normal bike ride of 5 miles?
Motors are rated in watts under a certain number of watts they are still classified as a push bike, over that on a road they become motorbikes and abide by those rules.0 -
full speed throttles (those that throttle up to 15.5 mph) will be illegal on bikes bought after January 2016,unless the bike has type approval.0
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I always read Brian's posts in a Brummie trainspotters accent. Very nasal.I don't do smileys.
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Has it occurred to you Brian that there are different types?
Yes I know, but the guy accused me of fabricating my anecdote, clearly he did not know there where different types, when he insisted they ALL had to be peddled to obtain motion0 -
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Has it occurred to you Brian that there are different types?
Yes I know, but the guy accused me of fabricating my anecdote, clearly he did not know there where different types, when he insisted they ALL had to be peddled to obtain motion
Yes, I know there are different types. They've been discussed on here before. Pictures, and all. The ones you don't have to pedal are, basically, motorbikes even thought they might try to sell them as e-bikes. If you're using the term 'e-bike' then most on this forum would assume you're talking about pedal assist.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Has it occurred to you Brian that there are different types?
Yes I know, but the guy accused me of fabricating my anecdote, clearly he did not know there where different types, when he insisted they ALL had to be peddled to obtain motion
Yes, I know there are different types. They've been discussed on here before. Pictures, and all. The ones you don't have to pedal are, basically, motorbikes even thought they might try to sell them as e-bikes. If you're using the term 'e-bike' then most on this forum would assume you're talking about pedal assist.
I think your just covering up and there would be a lot more dignity if you admitted your error ?
As it it Il leave it there. there is no point starting again at the begging where I said they are just motorbikes and you corrected me0 -
I think your just covering up and there would be a lot more dignity if you admitted your error ?
As it it Il leave it there. there is no point starting again at the begging where I said they are just motorbikes and you corrected me
You're free to think what you like.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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I wouldn't buy one personally as it defeats the object of cycling in my view.
But boy, would I love to have a go on one.
Wonder if you could set a new record on lands end to john o groates and ahem forget to mention it was an E-bike.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19745427#p19745427]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:I wouldn't buy one personally as it defeats the object of cycling in my view.
But boy, would I love to have a go on one.
Wonder if you could set a new record on lands end to john o groates and ahem forget to mention it was an E-bike.
You may need to take a long extension lead with you ?0 -
Sad to say but I am with Brian here, E-bikes are currently sold as both pedal assist and throttled, so those assuming the person had to be pedalling were wrong and should MTFU and admit it!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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Sad to say but I am with Brian here, E-bikes are currently sold as both pedal assist and throttled, so those assuming the person had to be pedalling were wrong and should MTFU and admit it!
Of course they are, as I said, there's been a thread on this before and cooldad posted a pick of a throttle controlled bike that we all dismissed as 'motorbike lite' rather than an e-bike/mountain bike. But we were talking about what we all consider an e-bike (pedal assist) when Brian posted. In fact Brian's post was a response to RM who had clearly stated he was talking about "hybrids". O.K. so the guy was on a motor bike. I apologise. No MTFingU required as I wasn't digging my heels in.
Brian still sounds like a buIIshitter, though. All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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