A new study regarding helmets

cycleclinic
cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
edited November 2015 in Road general
Interesting reading. I would like to point out that this study is not aimed at us the cyclist it is more aimed at policy makers regarding where to put resources. Still interesting that a non existant link between helmet use and head injury rates on a population wide study. I say thi so the thread does become full of anecdotal evidence for against helmets. I think it is worthwhile. I wear a helmet too.

summary press arcicle
http://road.cc/content/news/170525-study-finds-no-link-between-cycling-helmet-laws-and-head-injury-rates

Original paper
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/11/e008052.full.pdf
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,223
    Interesting reading. I would like to point out that this study is not aimed at us the cyclist it is more aimed at policy makers regarding where to put resources. Still interesting that a non existant link between helmet use and head injury rates on a population wide study. I say thi so the thread does become full of anecdotal evidence for against helmets. I think it is worthwhile. I wear a helmet too.

    summary press arcicle
    http://road.cc/content/news/170525-study-finds-no-link-between-cycling-helmet-laws-and-head-injury-rates

    Original [url=paperhttp://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/11/e008052.full.pdf]paperhttp://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/11/e008052.full.pdf[/url]
    Firstly, its a meta analysis, so no new research I don't think. Secondly, it hasn't stripped out mountain biking data and thirdly, you've misunderstood what it says. Here is a quote, "Studies among those injured in a cycling crash consist-ently show lower odds of head, brain or face injuries among those who wore a helmet, though the potential for uncontrolled confounding in observational studies of a health behaviour suggests that confidence in the effect estimates should not be unquestioning. Before–after studies of the impact of helmet
    legislation have shown weaker and less consistent effects. Some have found reductions in brain or head injuries of 8-29% related to legislation, whereas others have found no effect for some or all outcomes.
    "

    So the news is, there is no news, pretty much. Helmets seem to be a good idea for individuals but not as effective, from a policy point of view as other ideas.
  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    Please please don't pick at that particular scab again!
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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I think your conclusion is mine when you look at a population they are neutral in there impact but for individuals taking part in the more risky cycling activities they can be very useful.

    There is a general perception by many cyclist to shame those who don't wear a helmet but the point of this study is to say for many cyclist the thing that will improve there safety is not more helmet wearing but other things related to infrastructure. So not new but most research isn't it just formalised what is already known.
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  • gethinceri
    gethinceri Posts: 1,665
    Conclusions: These results suggest that transportation and health policymakers who aim to reduce bicycling injury rates in the population should focus on factors related to increased cycling mode share and female cycling choices. Bicycling routes designed to be physically separated from traffic or along quiet streets fit both these criteria and are associated with lower relative risks of injury.

    So none of the conclusions relate to helmets.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    That actually the whole point. On a population basis the effect of helmet use is neutral.
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  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    It's all about prevention rather than cure, instead of protecting people when they have had (are having) an accident, stop them having an accident in the first place.

    It would be like the police saying the solution to an increase in rapes is to make all women carry rape alarms instead of trying to stop rapes being committed in the first place..... kind of!
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,826
    As Chris says above it seems to be saying it's better to minimise the number of accidents through infrastructure than to legislate for protection that doesn't appear to make a significant difference across the population. You'd like to think that's pretty obvious.
  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    Having landed on my head at 40mph and slingshotting my bike high into a tree I was told my tumorous doctors that I would have died if I had not been wearing a helmet. I don't need reports to tell me whether they are good or bad for me.
  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    Having recently bought a shiny new Met Stradivarius, I'm not interested in any facts at all.
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  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    Having landed on my head at 40mph and slingshotting my bike high into a tree I was told my tumorous doctors that I would have died if I had not been wearing a helmet. I don't need reports to tell me whether they are good or bad for me.

    I think you may need a taller helmet as the point of this has gone way over your head!
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  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    Having landed on my head at 40mph and slingshotting my bike high into a tree I was told my tumorous doctors that I would have died if I had not been wearing a helmet. I don't need reports to tell me whether they are good or bad for me.

    That typo makes it read as if your physicians need to heal themselves. :D

    Anecdotes of the form "I was told by [emergency personnel] that if I had/hadn't been wearing a helmet/seatbelt I'd have been killed" are widely used by both sides of the argument. Better stick with the simple "I landed on my head the other day and I was glad I was wearing a helmet". I bet Geraint Thomas said something similar after nutting a French telegraph pole.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,826
    That actually the whole point. On a population basis the effect of helmet use is neutral.
    Seems to need emphasising for some. Maybe they had a bang on the head. :wink:
  • philwint
    philwint Posts: 763
    I bet Geraint Thomas said something similar after nutting a French telegraph pole.

    My helmet is 3 years old and I crashed and dented it a bit the other week. I haven't researched what lid Geraint was wearing that day..... but whatever it was that's what i'll be buying next.
  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    I bet Geraint Thomas said something similar after nutting a French telegraph pole.

    My helmet is 3 years old and I crashed and dented it a bit the other week. I haven't researched what lid Geraint was wearing that day..... but whatever it was that's what i'll be buying next.

    It was a Kask Protone, I believe.
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  • tonyf34
    tonyf34 Posts: 194
    Having landed on my head at 40mph and slingshotting my bike high into a tree I was told my tumorous doctors that I would have died if I had not been wearing a helmet. I don't need reports to tell me whether they are good or bad for me.
    Having being propelled head first at an angle at well over 35mph (after not being able to avoid a 6ftx3ftx4" deep chasm in the carriageway whence initially swerving to avoid a furry critter making a break across the road) I tucked my nut in, landed on my shoulder and didn't have a single mark on my head.

    I don't need reports to tell me that a helmet would have made my head hit the deck causing a serious head trauma as well as neck injuries and would have been bad for me... there you go, I matched your anecdotal evidence. See, negligible effect if not negative.