How important must you be......
chewa
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.... that you have to have your phone stuck to your ear when driving?
6 cars in less than an hour this morning, plus one guy looking down at his lap (either looking at his phone or admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time? I see time in the car like time on the bike - peace away from everything. I so wish police would enforce this aspect of the law more, particularly as one guy this morning was so intent on his phone he was on our side of a country road.
6 cars in less than an hour this morning, plus one guy looking down at his lap (either looking at his phone or admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time? I see time in the car like time on the bike - peace away from everything. I so wish police would enforce this aspect of the law more, particularly as one guy this morning was so intent on his phone he was on our side of a country road.
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Black 531c tourer
FCN 7
While dahn saff Dahon Speed 6 FCN 11!!!
Also 1964 Flying Scot Continental
1995 Cinelli Supercorsa (columbus slx)
BTwin Rockrider 8.1
Unicycle
Couple of others!
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Sadly, people are becoming addicted to them. There's some evidence that the symptoms experienced when you take someone's phone away actually mirror those of physical (chemical) addiction.
For example, see http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/technology-topics/11976179/What-happened-when-I-spent-a-week-without-my-smart-phone.html.
Some scary quotes from the article:
"I had to properly talk to everyone, instead of constantly refreshing Twitter, which was novel."
"I equally feel anchorless and lost without having any way of contacting anyone, or documenting my life."
Of course, it's not just car drivers and twenty-something hipsters. The Garmin 1000 has incoming call and text notifications...0 -
"stauner"
Great term. :-)
"I like riding in my car, it's not quite a Jaguar."0 -
An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?
This situation is caused by Bosses who are sh1t at delegating. They do not trust their underlings to do their jobs so they need to be in constant contact with one another.0 -
I so wish police would enforce this aspect of the law more, particularly as one guy this morning was so intent on his phone he was on our side of a country road.
So how do you know they don't enforce it when they are there to see it, detain the driver to obtain their details and report them? Just because you see it does not mean a PC might be seeing someone else do it in another part of your county and sticking them on. You can't expect a police officer on every street corner especially with the Tory intent on cut backs and surge for a privatised police service.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
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An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?
This situation is caused by Bosses who are sh1t at delegating. They do not trust their underlings to do their jobs so they need to be in constant contact with one another.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I so wish police would enforce this aspect of the law more, particularly as one guy this morning was so intent on his phone he was on our side of a country road.
So how do you know they don't enforce it when they are there to see it, detain the driver to obtain their details and report them? Just because you see it does not mean a PC might be seeing someone else do it in another part of your county and sticking them on. You can't expect a police officer on every street corner especially with the Tory intent on cut backs and surge for a privatised police service.
I agree.Seems to be a fixation with speeding (which you can deal with by not involving bodies) rather than other forms of dangerous driving (tailgating, crap overtaking, phones etc).Both my siblings are plod so I'm well aware of the issues affecting manpower and coverage. (Don't get little sis started about Police Scotland!)
I was just a bit p'd off about nearly getting sconed because some pr*ck felt it was more important to keep his phone to his ear than make the curve.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/93175/prosecutions-for-using-mobile-phones-while-driving-down-by-halfplus je vois les hommes, plus j'admire les chiens
Black 531c tourer
FCN 7
While dahn saff Dahon Speed 6 FCN 11!!!
Also 1964 Flying Scot Continental
1995 Cinelli Supercorsa (columbus slx)
BTwin Rockrider 8.1
Unicycle
Couple of others!0 -
An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?
This situation is caused by Bosses who are sh1t at delegating. They do not trust their underlings to do their jobs so they need to be in constant contact with one another.
Wtf ??? Does that include the dyed blonde chav who rear ended a Porsche this morning in the lane next to me, as she smoked a fag with one hand and gazed at her phone with the other ? God knows what she was looking at but judging by her car, clothing, personal hygiene and gormless look I suspect she has never had the luxury of a 'Boss' or I assume insurance.
I do love the 'far left' comments sprouted by some people :?0 -
I confess that as a driver I used my mobile while driving until it was made illegal. In fact, I stopped when the new law was announced, rather than introduced... so I stopped a few months before I had to.
I am a keen cyclist, as are I suspect many on these pages. As a result, I get a good view of drivers who pass me or whom I pass in traffic. Many, many, many use the phone while driving.
I no longer do, but I would if it were legal. It is not, so I don't.
I do not think people do it because they seem themselves important; they do it because they do not perceive it as dangerous and neither they nor anyone they know has been collared for it.
I do not see it as a reason to get particularly cross or heated. I does kill people, but so do speeding, drunk driving, keeping a vehicle in poor condition, lack of attention, changing CDs, tuning the radio, diesel spills and many more factors.
People will do it less after a few high-profile convictions or a dew local clamp-downs by law-enforcement agencies. Those clamp-downs might come when the public condemnation of phone use is perceived to have shifted significantly. For now, I fear, it has not.0 -
An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?
This situation is caused by Bosses who are sh1t at delegating. They do not trust their underlings to do their jobs so they need to be in constant contact with one another.
Wtf ??? Does that include the dyed blonde chav who rear ended a Porsche this morning in the lane next to me, as she smoked a fag with one hand and gazed at her phone with the other ? God knows what she was looking at but judging by her car, clothing, personal hygiene and gormless look I suspect she has never had the luxury of a 'Boss' or I assume insurance.
I do love the 'far left' comments sprouted by some people :?
ME!!! , ME !!! FAR LEFT!!! I must be getting soft in my old age. Most of my acquaintances think I am far right of Genghis Khan.0 -
I was passed by an AA driving instructor the other day who was using his mobile. The world has gone to $hit :-(0
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An appropriate question..... admiring his "stauner").
Does everybody have to be in constant contact all the time?
This situation is caused by Bosses who are sh1t at delegating. They do not trust their underlings to do their jobs so they need to be in constant contact with one another.
Wtf ??? Does that include the dyed blonde chav who rear ended a Porsche this morning in the lane next to me, as she smoked a fag with one hand and gazed at her phone with the other ? God knows what she was looking at but judging by her car, clothing, personal hygiene and gormless look I suspect she has never had the luxury of a 'Boss' or I assume insurance.
I do love the 'far left' comments sprouted by some people :?
As opposed to your chauvinistic, class hating comments.0 -
Line mangers do put a lot of pressure on employees to answer their phones, we ve 2hr SLA's & some 15min phone responses, directors and senior managers dictate that MB shouldnt be used whilst driving BUT day to operational pressures mean that it still happens, turn a blind eye so to speak, until it goes wrong and then the emplyee is dropped like a hot potato
We ve now all got bluetooth but in many ways, thats worse, as you think its safe but then you realise you ve missed that turning or junction and cant remember the last 15mins of the journey :shock:
I now keep conversations to an absolute min and try to stop if practicable.0 -
Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
In an ideal world, but as mentioned some people think they are too important.Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.
A friend was trying to turn into his road but the entrance was blocked by a woman on her phone. He hooted at her to let her know he was there. She looked at him and pointed to her phone mouthing the words "I'm on the phone". His reply was probably wasted on her.
So some people are incapable of pulling over properly and out of the way as well. :roll:0 -
Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.
i m talking about works phones..... not someone booking a hair appt
like i said, i ve bluetooth but imo its nots that safe either but try telling that to your employer.
a ringing phone is v distracting and sometimes the caller will keep ringing!
pulling over on a M way or leaving your phone on silent and checking msgs at every service station is not an option i m afraid.
Unfortunately, many employers give their staff a phone, no BlueT, tell them not to use it whilst driving and then pressure them into doing exactly that!0 -
We all have hands free kits / Bluetooth. Company policy is don't use it while driving. If you have an incoming call we're told to say we'll call back when we've found somewhere safe to park up. Our employee assistance / advice line will hang up if they think you're calling while driving. (I called them once when my wife was driving and had a hard time convincing them not to cut me off!)
The company take safety very seriously. Or they don't want to be sued for contributory negligence. Probably that second one.0 -
Are you being serious, Lookyhere? Your precious work is more important than people’s lives? Or for that matter, more important than someone booking a hairdresser? If you really think that, the question in the thread title has an answer: “as important as Lookyhere”.
Show some backbone.Unfortunately, many employers give their staff a phone, no BlueT, tell them not to use it whilst driving and then pressure them into doing exactly that!
Can you read? or were you on the phone whilst you wrote that crap?
i said i use a bluetooth, so havent a phone under my ear.
i assume if you had a delivery and it was late, you d be on the phone to the courier driver and would tn give a toss if the driver was on blue tooth or not? driving or parked up? just so long as you dont need to waste any of your precious time waiting in?
My point was that BTooth is legal BUT in reality is not really any more safe than a hand held, in terms of driver concentration and for your info, employees at the lower end of the employment spectrum do not have the collective rights that you seem to think they have.0 -
It is an option. An option that I am afraid you choose not to take.Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.
i m talking about works phones..... not someone booking a hair appt
like i said, i ve bluetooth but imo its nots that safe either but try telling that to your employer.
a ringing phone is v distracting and sometimes the caller will keep ringing!
pulling over on a M way or leaving your phone on silent and checking msgs at every service station is not an option i m afraid.
Unfortunately, many employers give their staff a phone, no BlueT, tell them not to use it whilst driving and then pressure them into doing exactly that!
And for your other response, I have never phoned a delivery guy.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
We all have hands free kits / Bluetooth. Company policy is don't use it while driving. If you have an incoming call we're told to say we'll call back when we've found somewhere safe to park up. Our employee assistance / advice line will hang up if they think you're calling while driving. (I called them once when my wife was driving and had a hard time convincing them not to cut me off!)
The company take safety very seriously. Or they don't want to be sued for contributory negligence. Probably that second one.
As looky says, policy and reality is sometimes different things. easy to say stand up to your employer, less easy when your company is under going "restructuring"
before i went desk side, as an engineer, we were expected to use our phones whilst driving, or rather answer them, a quick i m driving was usually enough but sometimes they d just witter on anyway.
Now bluetooth is common place, the current policy is only when absolutely necessary, in other words when ever anyone rings you 0 -
It is an option. An option that I am afraid you choose not to take.Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.
i m talking about works phones..... not someone booking a hair appt
like i said, i ve bluetooth but imo its nots that safe either but try telling that to your employer.
a ringing phone is v distracting and sometimes the caller will keep ringing!
pulling over on a M way or leaving your phone on silent and checking msgs at every service station is not an option i m afraid.
Unfortunately, many employers give their staff a phone, no BlueT, tell them not to use it whilst driving and then pressure them into doing exactly that!
And for your other response, I have never phoned a delivery guy.
someone else who cant read..... i have bt fitted.... So, what you saying is that when i leave for my first job in Bristol tomo, i get in the car, switch the phone off and drive 2.5hrs to site, switch phone back on and check msg etc and find out appt was moved to pm, cancelled, moved to another day, or that another tech will do Bristol job and that i have to go to truro (all scenarios that are common place) do that too many times and i d be out of a job.
Or i can use my bluetooth? i m sorry but modern cars are fitted with bt because they are legal to use whilst driving, there are caveats IF you have an accident but they still legal.
You guys seem to have difficulty between mb bluetooth and someone doing their lippy/having a shave, with a phone under their ear, steering with their knee, negoiating a junction.0 -
I don't have a problem. It wasn't me that said BT was dangerous.
It is an option. An option that I am afraid you choose not to take.Here's a thought.
Next time your phone rings, pull over and answer or call back.
If it was important then they will have left a message.
It really is that simple.
i m talking about works phones..... not someone booking a hair appt
like i said, i ve bluetooth but imo its nots that safe either but try telling that to your employer.
a ringing phone is v distracting and sometimes the caller will keep ringing!
pulling over on a M way or leaving your phone on silent and checking msgs at every service station is not an option i m afraid.
Unfortunately, many employers give their staff a phone, no BlueT, tell them not to use it whilst driving and then pressure them into doing exactly that!
And for your other response, I have never phoned a delivery guy.
someone else who cant read..... i have bt fitted.... So, what you saying is that when i leave for my first job in Bristol tomo, i get in the car, switch the phone off and drive 2.5hrs to site, switch phone back on and check msg etc and find out appt was moved to pm, cancelled, moved to another day, or that another tech will do Bristol job and that i have to go to truro (all scenarios that are common place) do that too many times and i d be out of a job.
Or i can use my bluetooth? i m sorry but modern cars are fitted with bt because they are legal to use whilst driving, there are caveats IF you have an accident but they still legal.
You guys seem to have difficulty between mb bluetooth and someone doing their lippy/having a shave, with a phone under their ear, steering with their knee, negoiating a junction.
I merely suggested pulling over before answering. There is nothing that can't wait till the next exit.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
We all have hands free kits / Bluetooth. Company policy is don't use it while driving. If you have an incoming call we're told to say we'll call back when we've found somewhere safe to park up. Our employee assistance / advice line will hang up if they think you're calling while driving. (I called them once when my wife was driving and had a hard time convincing them not to cut me off!)
The company take safety very seriously. Or they don't want to be sued for contributory negligence. Probably that second one.
We have a similar thing, but then we have people (not me) selling behavioural safety training and safety culture stuff so we kind of have to practice what we preach... Can be awkward when a client calls you up while driving and you have to explain that they need to stop and call back, and the fact they're on hands free doesn't mean anything.
Friend of mine drives a lot for work and they've recently instigated a "no call while driving, even handsfree" policy - and now they're getting problems with fatigue and so on because people used to be using their driving time to get essential calls done, and they've had to add it to the start and end of their working day instead (his driving time is regularly 4hrs or more a day).
I don't believe it should be allowed either, but it's easy to see why some people feel the need to do so without thinking they are super important.0 -
I used to commute 40 miles each way by car ... most of it dual carriageway - I could quite easily get home and not recall significant parts of the journey - and that's not using the phone - I don't think remembering junctions matters - it's the distraction - of which we have enough in the car.If you asked people, they would tell you it’s dangerous. There have been enough studies, ads, etc., by now to get that point across. Besides, it is blatantly obvious to anyone who has attempted it and can’t remember the last two junctions.
before it was illegal I did occaisionally use my phone whilst driving - always with the "I'm driving so I might have to go" at the beginning ... it's amazing just how much you can't do when you're holding a phone to your ear.
and can't wait till they stop ...No. People use their phone while driving because they have no self-control.0
